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ewilcox11
04-20-2017, 12:04 AM
Finally decided to redo my hatch. Vinyl is in good shape, but it had a bow in it. I believe from where the original owner left the tower sitting on it. Trying to decide if I want to rebuild like it was or make a custom hatch and cover it with Seadek or something. The flat base is a corrugated looking material. Does anyone know what this is? I figured it was just HDPE, but it's not.

agarabaghi, did you say you had a CAD file for a hatch that you built?

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170419_234534.jpg

gwozhog
04-20-2017, 07:54 AM
Honeycomb aluminum.

Vwluv10338
04-20-2017, 07:58 AM
I'm planning on doing the same to mine since the vinyl is shot. I also assumed it was HDPE which is what mine looks like but it also has a layer of aluminum honeycomb. I'm not sure if having two small cushions made up for the sides and a filler cusion with snaps for the middle is worth it vs just putting down a sheet of hydro turf

gwozhog
04-20-2017, 04:59 PM
I'm going to run a cross support as close to the plastic tray as possible. It will probably run over the distributor cap. Really disappointing that mastercraft did not put more thought into the center sunpad.

gwozhog
04-23-2017, 07:12 PM
Are there nuts mounted to the honeycomb aluminum for the 4 hinge bolts? Or do the bolts just screw in to the panel? I removed my sunpad today and was wandering how the hinges were engineered. Would you mind taking a pic of it too since you have your all apart.

ewilcox11
04-24-2017, 12:30 AM
It screws into the panel, but there are threaded inserts in the honeycomb. I will try to take a picture tomorrow.

ewilcox11
04-26-2017, 11:06 PM
Here you go

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170426_225825.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170426_225855.jpg

brucemac
04-27-2017, 01:52 PM
Just wanted to chime in and add something to consider. Whatever you end up doing and before you get too far down the path, be sure that your solution and end result does not interfere with the distributor cap. Of course, I'm not sure if the disti cap is the same on your 07 MCX as mine, but I have a similar problem with my hatch. It doesn't sag, but it's gotten softer, especially in the middle during high heat. I spent a LOT of money and time last season chasing my tail with a problem: intermittent missing/misfires and brief check engine light. I ultimately figured it out, but it was super frustrating and kind of killed our season. Turns out, I likely had more than one issue but the root of my major problem was an ever so slightly broken pin on the center wire of my MCX's distributor cap. The shop didn't catch it on land and I had a complete tuneup just 2 months prior (new cap). The cause was the result of someone either jumping onto/off of the hatch or jumping a$$ first from the swim step onto the hatch backward (I'm guilty of having done this). Once I finally figured this out and discussed with my local Indmar shop, they discovered that when an average sized adult steps with two feet together directly above the disti cap, it touches. One foot is fine, average sized kid, fine. Kind of a marathon post, but wanted to definitely make sure you keep this in mind and don't wish my problems last year on anybody. Anxious to see what you end up doing. I would like to address this as well, but in the meantime will carry a $40 cap under the back bench. ;)

ewilcox11
04-27-2017, 10:34 PM
Right now I'm pursuing one of the designs another member here used on his X1. Still trying to get a total cost.

gwozhog
04-27-2017, 11:22 PM
My stupid sunpad tray has been rubbing my throttle body connection plug. Last weekend I cut the honeycomb to slide the tray over a 1/4. Out of all the flaws with my boat I have to admit this sunpad situation upsets me the most. My buddy built a support bracket and will try to get it installed this weekend. Will post pics after it's in.

gwozhog
04-27-2017, 11:26 PM
I have thought about that x1 walk through but the hard aluminum looks like a potential knee banger climbing up on it. I'm not worried about myself but more about the kids. That x1 that was done on here looks like it has very sharp edges on the 1/4 inch plate he used.

gwozhog
04-27-2017, 11:28 PM
I think 1" starboard with extra support brackets might be the best way to go.

ewilcox11
04-28-2017, 01:22 AM
I'm still getting the cost, but a buddy of mine that deals with metal tells me that 1/4" sheet of aluminum is going to be stupid expensive. So I'm also looking into making the frame out of aluminum and then using an HDPE sheet for the cover.

gwozhog
04-28-2017, 08:15 AM
My only concern with aluminum frame is how the gelcoat on the stern would hold up to the opening and closing. Or even just stepping on it. I would think the hard frame would cause gelcoat cracks. You might want to email that x1 owner and ask if it's tearing up his boat.

ewilcox11
04-28-2017, 09:17 AM
I have talked to him, he's never mentioned any issues like that. I don't think it actually comes into contact with the gel. It sits on those back hinges and just lays across the engine. He has a whole thread on here.

gwozhog
04-28-2017, 01:20 PM
I have talked to him, he's never mentioned any issues like that. I don't think it actually comes into contact with the gel. It sits on those back hinges and just lays across the engine. He has a whole thread on here.

Yeah I saw the thread. It looks preety cool.

fannin
04-29-2017, 02:37 PM
I think 1" starboard with extra support brackets might be the best way to go.



I rebuilt my engine hatch a few years back using 1" hpde. If I did it again I would use something lighter. It's pretty heavy to lift up.


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gwozhog
04-29-2017, 03:40 PM
I rebuilt my engine hatch a few years back using 1" hpde. If I did it again I would use something lighter. It's pretty heavy to lift up.


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How has ot held up?

ewilcox11
04-29-2017, 10:13 PM
I'm thinking either 1/2" or 3/8"

CheeseSteak1
04-30-2017, 12:27 AM
In the prosses of finishing up mine. That honeycomb aluminum is crap. My dad owns a butcher shop and had a huge slab of 3/4" HDPE laying around that I made the deck out of.

ewilcox11
05-02-2017, 12:38 AM
Right now I'm having trouble finding someone to make the seadek pad. May just have to rebuild the old pad.

gwozhog
05-05-2017, 07:47 AM
My Modification to the frame.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pW0Op-ifh1g

brucemac
05-05-2017, 10:18 AM
My Modification to the frame.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pW0Op-ifh1g

I need THAT! And a buddy who fixes airplanes! That's perfect.

ewilcox11
05-05-2017, 12:42 PM
I had a local seadek distributor that originally told me they could make the Mastercraft pad for me, but now I can't get them to call me. Gonna have to make a final decision very soon.

gwozhog
05-05-2017, 01:36 PM
just go cut a sheet a plywood and mount it temporarily while you figure out how to get it done properly. That way there is no time on the water lost.

agarabaghi
05-05-2017, 01:41 PM
www.aquamarinedeck.com

there material is 100% identical to seadek just got a sample of their mocha

ewilcox11
05-05-2017, 11:36 PM
I'll check with them, but I found someone else today that says they can do it.

I'm not on the water yet. My lake is still not at summer pool. I usually don't go til it's almost full as it increases the risk of hitting something that would normally be fully submerged. Lots of rain lately though so shouldn't be long.

ewilcox11
06-02-2017, 04:49 PM
Well, here's the latest update.

Aluminum tubing - check
Someone to fab frame - check
HDPE sheet for cover - check
Mastercraft Seadek pad - BIG uncheck

So I'm completely ready to get this done and found out today that MC is in the process of a licensing agreement with Seadek, but no word on when it will actually happen.

I guess I'll just rebuild the old vinyl cover. It's either that or go ahead with the new cover without the Seadek pad for who knows how long. Very frustrating.

gwozhog
06-02-2017, 06:32 PM
I'm waiting to see what you do. Have you made anything temporary. Surely it's boating season now where you live. My new support has solved all my saggy sunpad woes. I would really like to rip out all my carpet and throw some seadeck on that. I'm not too worried about an mc logo for that though.

ewilcox11
06-03-2017, 12:45 AM
Yep, it's boating season. That's why I gotta get something done. We usually don't get out til mid June though. It has rained here the last couple of weekends and softball is in full swing right now, but should be done in a couple of weeks. I'm chomping at the bit.

I think I'm just going to flip the old honeycomb upside down and rebuild the old cover. Hopefully that will hold til I can get my pad. I have almost all the materials to build this so I'm still planning to do it as soon as I can get the Seadek.

I think it's gonna be awesome. I have a guy that says he can put the shield on it as soon as MC gives him permission.

ewilcox11
06-08-2017, 12:24 PM
Well, trying to put the old hatch back together and now I can't find a staple that will penetrate to aluminum. I noticed that the staples I took out had sharp, pointed ends. Everything I see at stores has a flat end. Anyone know where to get these sharp staples?

ewilcox11
06-09-2017, 01:20 AM
Finally found them. If anyone is ever looking for them they are called divergent point staples. Will probably have to order them, no stores seem to have them. Ugh, another weekend lost.

ewilcox11
06-12-2017, 03:11 PM
I ordered the pad today. Should have it next month. I flipped the honeycomb board and rebuilt the old pad over the weekend. What a pain in the butt. For some reason the cutout in the old board was off center, even though the engine is perfectly centered. Not sure why they did this, but it made flipping it more work. The bow is gone for now and it's straight with the rest of the back pads. Hopefully it will hold up for another month or so. I splurged a little more on the pad, but I think it's gonna look bada$$.

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170611_030225.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170611_030134.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170611_030108.jpg

gwozhog
06-12-2017, 03:43 PM
The pans is off center so it clears the throttle body plug harness. Look at the pic i posted on page 1. I would make sure your pan walls are not hitting anything when its in the closed position.

ewilcox11
06-12-2017, 04:17 PM
Maybe they did it for the MCX. I believe I'm clear.

ewilcox11
07-18-2017, 01:21 PM
Pad is being fabbed today. Should have it by end of week maybe. They just sent me a proof and I think it's gonna be kick a$$.

Fomby
07-18-2017, 05:30 PM
My Modification to the frame.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pW0Op-ifh1g

That is awesome!!! Would you be willing to send the dimensions of that I Beam stock? I have found a place online to order from but want to be sure I get the correct size. I'm mostly interested in the height (A) and width (B) measurements per the pic below. The smallest they have is 3" x 2.5" which seems like it would be good but just want to be sure.

I've been needing to fix the dreaded sag on my boat since I bought it and the time has come!

https://www.onlinemetals.com/prodimg/ibeam_AA_medium.png

ewilcox11
07-18-2017, 06:35 PM
Just got the UPS tracking. Will be here Thursday. Now just gotta get the aluminum frame built.

ewilcox11
07-20-2017, 05:10 PM
Here it is boys.

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170720_165038.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/ewilcox11/20170720_165043.jpg

gwozhog
07-20-2017, 11:24 PM
That is awesome!!! Would you be willing to send the dimensions of that I Beam stock? I have found a place online to order from but want to be sure I get the correct size. I'm mostly interested in the height (A) and width (B) measurements per the pic below. The smallest they have is 3" x 2.5" which seems like it would be good but just want to be sure.

I've been needing to fix the dreaded sag on my boat since I bought it and the time has come!

https://www.onlinemetals.com/prodimg/ibeam_AA_medium.png

Mine is more like a t-beam. My buddy said it's pretty tough shape to find but he can make it for you. He said he would do it for 150 bucks. We are up in kingwood and you could bring your boat up and we can install it for that price. Pm if your interested.