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lj_mastercraft
04-03-2017, 11:18 PM
Updating this thread as answers come in :)
Red means confirmed, Orange means still confirming.

Hi
After having this boat for a little over a month, and using it several times, i have a few questions that i was hoping i could get answered. Some of them i've already done some research on, but not extensive. Please if you could refer to the question you're answering in your response, as some of them the answers may be similar, and i want to be sure i understand :)

1) I have 3 switches to the right of the console (see first attachment). Directly to the right of the audio controls. I have not figured out what they do, and can post a picture of them directly if necessary. There's an "ON", "MAN", etc. 3 rocker switches.
Confirmed these are the switches for the MC Perfect Pass to the right of the speedo

2) Is there anything required to get the shower to work? I have the hot/cold attachment on the rear transom, but turning either of the knobs, no water comes out. Is there a shutoff valve inside the boat somewhere?
Still going to confirm - may be related to one of the switches (unlabeled) on the left of the steering wheel

3) What kind of boot soap do you put in the reservoir on the starboard side mounted to the stern inside the locker?

4) I noticed my boat (and it appears all x45s?) don't have tracking fins underneath. The boat is a beast to maneuver, and I feel tracking fins may help give me more of a pivot point when performing forward/reverse maneuvers?
Confirmed the X45s didn't come with tracking fins, and they wouldn't help at low speeds (maneuvering) anyway

5) Bimini top (see attachment 2) is in two pieces, a front and back. They zip together in the middle. Front one, when folded, covers the top half of the front facing docking lights (meaning they only illuminate the front interior of the boat). Looks like this is certainly not the standard bimini. Wanted any thoughts on this.
Seems like others have the same issue with the front bimini covering the docking lights when the bimini is folded. Back section appears to be aftermarket?

6) Below the ballast pump switches are three little black switches. Two of them say 'speedo', and the middle one says 'display selector'. Self explanatory labels, and I noticed I can calibrate the speedometer with either of the switches, which led me to question - why are there two switches that do the same thing (the two outer switches) - same label and everything.
Looks like one may control the analog speedo (center gauge), while the other may control the PP speed. Will confirm this weekend

7) Is it possible to find a wiring diagram for the boat's electrical system?
Got a wiring diagram for the engine (thanks!) - but nothing that appears to reference the auxiliary electrical system (ballasts, bilge, lights, etc)

8) Do both batteries charge, regardless what the battery selection switch is set to?

9) Perfect pass - doesn't have "GPS" on the top left of the display, which I believe means it's a manual one and not GPS enabled? Shows "Mastercraft perfect pass". I'd heard it's possible (easy in fact) to swap them out? What's involved in this?
Appears the Stargazer Perfectpass will work out of the box

10) Steering wheel is not aligned with the rudder. Makes it a challenge when trying to fine tune the angle the boat is heading, when the wheel is something like 120 degrees off. How easy is this to remediate?
Appears I just need to pull it and reconfigure

11) Depth finder. Mine had come loose, so the dealer epoxied it back together on the hull of the boat. The finder now reads a value, but I suspect it's way off. I know it's working (to an extent), as the middle of the lake reads a few dozen feet, where near the dock is a lot less. However the boat is still floating when the depth finder is reading "0.5", so there's got to be something off with it. What's involved in calibrating it?

12) How fast should this boat be able to go? I'm not sure the prop info, but will find it. From what I've been told, it's the stock prop. I can do 40mph (GPS verified), but the boat seems like it's struggling - 5500RPM, etc.
Seems it's normal for these boats to have a cruise speed of 23-27, but top speed of 40+ is not good for them

13) How do these boat transmissions work? Like car transmissions with several gears? I've never heard, felt, or seen (on the tach) the boat 'shift'? I'm certain I would have felt a shift, but I haven't - so is the transmission just a direct engage or disengage forward or reverse, with no actual gearing?
Confirmed they have no gearing, only neutral, forward, and reverse - crank driven

14) Ballast tanks - was told they would overflow when full, but that emptying they should empty out of the same hole in the hull as the intake, since the pumps just 'reverse'. Seems 2 of my ballasts empty out the side of the hull (the overflow holes)?
Appears that older model boats (prior to 2008?) use the overflow. I will confirm this over the weekend - I thought 2 of them used the overflow to empty and the 3rd didn't, but will confirm

15) Ballasts - I have 3 switches built into the boat (KGB, FWD, PORT if I remember). Then someone has added another switch that says "PORT". The only ballasts I can see are one on each side of the engine, and one in the center (between the glove compartment and driver console, a little further forward). Where are the pumps for them? I see the top piece that I assume is the float. Do these boats only come with hard ballast tanks? What does "KGB" mean?
KGB is center ballast tank apparently.

16) While the right side switches on the console have labels (ballast tanks, NAV lights, etc) the left side accessory switches do not; anyone have a good way to label them?
I need to go through what each of the switches do; will add this to my to-do list. I suspect one of them is supposed to run the shower, but doesn't

17) I find when docking, i have to back the trailer WAY into the water on most ramps that are either too shallow or too deep, otherwise the front of the boat doesn't clear the bump guard on the trailer. Is this normal? I have a 'boat buddy' installed on the trailer that has the spring loaded hitch. Comes in handy when loading as the audible 'click' lets me know i'm connected, but wondering if on the flipside, it's requiring the boat to be a lot higher than necessary? See attachment 3 for the location relative to the boat when trailered.
Appears 'Boat Buddy' is designed to let the hull ride up it, leaving markson hull.

18) My boat appears to have what looks like a power flag deploy (see attachment 2) - mounted to the front starboard pillar of the tower. Have not been able to figure out how (if) it works, and the dealer said they've never seen one. Anyone have any insight?

19) Boat covers - my boat came with two covers that have snaps on the exterior perimeter of the boat. The front covers the front section to the windshield. The back section covers the back cabin from windshield back. In addition, I have a mastercraft cover with 'Mastercraft' printed on the section that goes near the windshield. This cover goes over the entire windshield, and has ratchets at the back that tighten it around the entire boat (including windshield), minus the tower. Assuming that's the weatherproof cover? What's the purpose of the black covers with the snaps? And seems like the covers 'sag' - water (rain) collects in the front and rear of the boat. Any way around that? I've tried taking two pieces of 2x4, cut to the right side, and wedged them in, creating more of a 'teepee'.
It's supposed to have two "tent poles", which mine are missing. I'll see if I can find some aftermarket, and if anyone has any suggestions i'm all ears :)

tabooze
04-04-2017, 06:52 AM
13 - boat transmissions just have forward and reverse gears. They do not shift like a car transmission.

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tabooze
04-04-2017, 06:56 AM
5 - in both of my Mastercraft boats the docking lights illuminate the bimini top just like you describe. Not the best design from the factory.

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tabooze
04-04-2017, 06:57 AM
4 - tracking fins won't offer you any value for low speed maneuvers. They only help with tracking at higher speeds.

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tabooze
04-04-2017, 07:00 AM
You should be able to download an owners manual for the boat from the Mastercraft website. Just Google for mastercraft owners manual. This will help you identify the switches.

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tabooze
04-04-2017, 07:03 AM
15-KGB stands for keel line gravity ballast. It is the center ballast tank.

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tabooze
04-04-2017, 07:16 AM
19-the snap on covers are quicker to install and remove but they don't offer the best protection since they leave a lot of the fiberglass exposed to the sun. They are probably after market. The Mastercraft cover is the better all weather storage cover. They came from the factory with a set of tent poles connected by straps that provide the teepee effect you need to prevent water from pooling. The picture isn't a mastercraft but should give you the idea. Mastercraft had two tent poles.

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tabooze
04-04-2017, 07:17 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170404/343bad7f46802cd6fcb2b32b7fb765d6.jpg

CantRepeat
04-04-2017, 07:38 AM
1. Mastercraft cruise control.

https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=67533

CantRepeat
04-04-2017, 07:42 AM
11. Depth finder keel offset.

https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=73497

CantRepeat
04-04-2017, 07:44 AM
7. In general, Mastercraft never released wiring diagrams for their boats.

The only exception I know of was an owner that got his dealer to include MC manuals as part of the purchase deal. This was an X55 but I cannot remember the year.

Lots of stuff in the TT library.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=59719

waterbuffalo
04-04-2017, 08:33 AM
2) you might need to prime the pump. I've had this happen on our CSX. If you run it dry and or drain all the water out.

12) tug boats are not made to go fast. Our CSX had a good cruse around 3500-4200rpm @ 32-35mph. Don't ever drive around at WOT.


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lj_mastercraft
04-04-2017, 08:36 AM
11. Depth finder keel offset.

https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=67533

I think you posted the same thread as your previous post.

Thanks all for the helpful responses

Any idea where I could buy the tent poles for the cover?

bbymgr
04-04-2017, 08:42 AM
What engine do you have?

lj_mastercraft
04-04-2017, 08:44 AM
8.1L indmar/vortec

bbymgr
04-04-2017, 08:49 AM
Here is a wiring diagram........but take notice of the revision date of 2008. I'm not sure how accurate it will be to yours.

Coffeyman76
04-04-2017, 09:05 AM
That's a ton of questions! I feel ya getting the hang of a new boat. This forum is your friend. Search and search again, tons of great information here. Having an 06 x45 I think I can answer some of your questions.

1. This is MC Cruise Control. Wasn't ever a fan of it, but it works on occasion. There are other options (Stargazer, etc.) that can be installed that will make you much happier if you are surfing or really need to hold a tight speed.

2. You probably need to prime the pump. Can't remember if these use the same impeller as the ballast pumps but you should be able to open it up and verify that it's in good shape (if that is the case). Otherwise it probably needs to be primed as previously mentioned.

4. Docking the 45 took me a little bit but once you get it, it becomes second nature. I can back mine into the tightest spaces now. Slow. When you think you are going slow, go slower. Bump in and out of throttle with gentle taps. Idle speed is too fast. Tons of articles here on that subject. Get the nose cornered in and bring the rear around with gentle taps of reverse. If you can pick the ramp/dock/slip that accommodates the boat the best (and it's docking limitations) do so. E.g. don't come in where you have to back to the left. The fins won't help this, only the newest boats have Dockstar.

5. The bimini looks right, it needs the cover when folded up. It looks like someone added the extended bimini to the rear so the entire setup could be aftermarket, can't remember if that was a true MC option. The front portion resembles mine and did the same crap with the lights (poor design). Those lights are terrible anyways. They blind the driver and basically go 15 feet in front of the boat. The darkness is your friend!

6. Not all the boats came with MC Cruise so I think one calibrates the boat speedo and the other is related to the Cruise, hence the two similar switches. Use a GPS phone app to check your speed.

8. I believe it only charges both if you have a dual bank charger that has leads attached to each battery. Can find good ones on Amazon or similar. If not swap off the charger occasionally.

9. Mentioned above. I hated my MC Cruise frankly but got a newer boat with Perfect Pass before I did the upgrade. I believe most are using the Stargazer which can work directly. Search that you will see the posts.

10. That looks like an aftermarket steering wheel. They won't ever be perfect but you should be able to remove and reset it accordingly.

12. That sounds about right. I had the 8.1L and had mine near 45 mph but they don't run fast. I wouldn't recommend running her at WOT often, if at all. Best cruising speed for me is 23 to 27. I fill the KGB up about half way or more depending on how rough it is and trim tab the nose down and the 45 will handle chop like a knife through warm butter. It really is a smooth riding boat because of it's size and weight but isn't meant for speed. You will absolutely suck fuel if you are running it hard too.

14. The older models pump over the side. Not sure what year they changed that. 08? Anyways I sort of liked it because you knew exactly when it was done and didn't have to worry about burning up an impeller in the pump.

15. Center ballast tank. Remove the 6 screws from the walkway floor panel and you will see it and the pump. You will need this if you end up piggy backing bags off the center tank.

16. Not sure but I think you can easily obtain the new dash panels. I know Great Lakes Skipper normally has them. It should come with the appropriate labels (factory). One thing, if the boat has new things wired to it (such as that flag pole/mortar/international HAM radio antenna thing) they may have used these switches. So it might not control what you think. That could also be true for the wash down. Not everyone uses them so some "steal" the switch to run other things. it isn't clear if your wash down "runs" when you use it.

18. That is an interesting contraption. Need some more pictures. I'm sure someone here knows what it is but that's massive to be a flag pole. Plus with that cap it doesn't make sense. It's wired through the tower so go under the seat and try and track that wire down. I'm curious what it is and what it may do. It looks more like some sort of marine radio antenna mast. I'm wondering if a marine radio wasn't removed at some point.

lj_mastercraft
04-04-2017, 11:33 AM
Coffeyman - thanks for the responses.

In regards question 8, I should clarify - i'm not referring to an external charger, but more to the engine charging the battery (batteries) when running - via the alternator

lj_mastercraft
04-04-2017, 11:39 AM
Also on #18, both dealerships I've taken the boat to, including the local Mastercraft dealer, have been intrigued by it. It's definitely a flag mount, as I can peer inside the plastic cap (lifting the sides) and sure enough there's a rolled up orange flag in it.

I have also joked with passengers about it being an anti-air gun, FLAK cannon, firework shooter, etc...

Will post some more detailed pictures of it later today

CantRepeat
04-04-2017, 11:54 AM
I think you posted the same thread as your previous post.

Thanks all for the helpful responses

Any idea where I could buy the tent poles for the cover?

Sorry about that.

https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=73497

jrcarte78
04-04-2017, 11:59 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170404/343bad7f46802cd6fcb2b32b7fb765d6.jpg

Had one of these on my last 2 boats. Simple install and works great. Never used the "tent pole" setup but would have to believe the Hangtyte is much easier to use regularly.

Also, I've only used one for main cabin area as I've found that's enough for my application but you can install multiple for bow and main cabin area.

http://www.hangtyte.com/

agarabaghi
04-04-2017, 01:06 PM
hangtyte for the win, im going to retro fit on on my cover as soon as i get around to it.

lj_mastercraft
04-04-2017, 01:07 PM
Sorry about that.

https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=73497

Thanks -
Unless i'm missing something, it doesn't seem to indicate how to configure it? :/

rtw_travel
04-04-2017, 01:44 PM
Also on #18, both dealerships I've taken the boat to, including the local Mastercraft dealer, have been intrigued by it. It's definitely a flag mount, as I can peer inside the plastic cap (lifting the sides) and sure enough there's a rolled up orange flag in it.

I have also joked with passengers about it being an anti-air gun, FLAK cannon, firework shooter, etc...

Will post some more detailed pictures of it later today

I've never seen one... but if its an orange flag, it must be some kind of skier down flag? Is the wire connected to it 12V wiring, or coax for antennas? Is there an extra switch in the cockpit that doesn't seem to be stock?

Nothing shows up on google that looks like that, although there are systems that use rope tension as a means of determining whether the flag should be up or down. If it is a skier down flag, it certainly seems to an elegant but complicated solution to a problem that nobody has.

The dealers are right... it is intriguing

lj_mastercraft
04-04-2017, 02:30 PM
Yes it's definitely a skier/boarder down flag.

I'd seen them once before - there's a video on youtube floating around that I can't find now, but looks like this is the same kind of contraption:

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=1101939&postcount=53

lj_mastercraft
04-05-2017, 01:21 PM
BUMP. I have more questions!

lj_mastercraft
04-06-2017, 05:36 PM
Need mo answers plz!

Soder
04-06-2017, 06:28 PM
#2 - The Shower - In my 2004 X30, I have to turn on the accessory switch on the dash to turn on the shower pump. My pump is located under the corner seat behind the driver's seat. Once the pump is on, I can adjust the hot/cold knobs and the shower pours out.

The pump/shower pulls cold water from the lake and warm water from the engine block to create hot cold. Hence, if you are using hot water and the engine is not running, the hot quickly becomes warm and then cold. Take caution to avoid CO poisoning while running the engine and using the hot water in the shower.

On a side note, there's a great thread on here about how to use your shower pump to pump anti-freeze into your heater core for winterization of both the pump and the heater core (that is, if you have a heater).

Soder
04-06-2017, 06:39 PM
#8 - Charging batteries. It's hard to know if you are charging both batteries without seeing how they are wired and switched. Can you post at least a picture of your battery switch and offer any insights as to how they are wired?

A standard Off - 1 - 1+2/Both/All - 2 switch will only charge both when it is set to 1+2/Both/All. Unfortunately it will drain both as well if you are sitting at anchor with the stereo pumping.

An awesome solution is the Blue Seas Add-A-Battery which incorporates an ACR (Automatic Charging Relay) which connects the batteries when the engine is running and isolates them when it is not. I have installed these in two boats and have never had a dead battery, engine or house.

I've attached two pictures of standard switches and a diagram of how the Add-A-Battery system works. Search the forum for more info on these systems. There are different opinions out there besides mine.

bcd
04-06-2017, 09:41 PM
What are your remaining open questions? There have been a lot of answers supplied. It will save trying to read through everything to figure out the remaining ones.

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lj_mastercraft
04-06-2017, 11:44 PM
What are your remaining open questions? There have been a lot of answers supplied. It will save trying to read through everything to figure out the remaining ones.

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I've been keeping the first post up to date with which ones are answered :)

MC197indy
04-07-2017, 09:38 AM
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bcd
04-07-2017, 10:40 AM
Didn't realize the original post was being updated.

17. The boat will hit and ride up on the front bumper (boat buddy). They are known to leave marks on the hull that will come off with acetone.

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lj_mastercraft
04-12-2017, 12:37 PM
Bump!

lj_mastercraft
05-02-2017, 07:16 PM
Thought I'd put up a quick video of the power flag in operation. Was able to get it working by sending the control module in to HBP. The owner is super helpful - would HIGHLY recommend. Couldn't have asked for a better experience.

Flag opens and closes perfectly now (see video). Good stuff...

tabooze
05-02-2017, 08:06 PM
Tent poles and associated straps are available from Overtons.

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