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KxCorky
06-02-2014, 12:34 PM
Teaching someone to Wakeboard yesterday and had the rope come out of their hands and fly back into the boat. Smacked me in the back of the head hard enough I blacked out. Same Wakeboard rope we used the last 5 yeasr and that never happened. My Finace said I got the boat into nutral and went to the bow but I don't remember any of it. One heck of a head ache and concussion today. Is their something else we should be doing. Never had this problem in the last 5 years with this rope.

east tx skier
06-02-2014, 12:44 PM
Sorry that happened to you. We have used recoil tubes while skiing. Although I am doubtful that they are fool proof to stop a severely popped handle. With riders who you are unfamiliar and especially new riders, we always stress that if you are going down (or if you think you are going down), let go of the handle. We explain to them the dangers about handle recoil. I have known some drivers that have refused to drive after a rider popped a handle more than once. The pop the handle, lose your turn rule is not unheard of.

That said, you could equip your 205 with a Safe-T-Top (if you can locate one) and net.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=60123&stc=1&d=1280365180

Jerseydave
06-02-2014, 12:44 PM
What kind of rope? I've never had that happen with wakeboard ropes but I have with slalom ropes. Stay away from stretchy poly rope when wakeboarding.

Hope your okay.

neil.anderson63
06-02-2014, 12:48 PM
Glad you're ok. I'm interested if you saw any bright lights or Elvis?:D:D

KxCorky
06-02-2014, 12:51 PM
I saw stars for sure, I quit racing becuse I had too many concussions. Never saw this coming. I can't rememebr what the brand is. It is a 0 stretch rope though. Its in the garbage now. Just lucky I was watching the mirror and not turned around looking back, that would have been a bad deal. I don't know what hurts worse the head or the back ofmy shoulder blade that I had surgery on 6 months ago. :mad:

We have two Ski ropes but they are only used to ski.

CruisinGA
06-02-2014, 12:52 PM
What kind of rope? I've never had that happen with wakeboard ropes but I have with slalom ropes. Stay away from stretchy poly rope when wakeboarding.

Hope your okay.

2nd-
I think the newer non-stretch wakeboard ropes have much less propensity to recoil.

KxCorky
06-02-2014, 12:53 PM
I guess it a good idea to get new ropes every other year then, this thing is at least 5 years old if not older. Wonder if they start to give after a while.

KxCorky
06-02-2014, 12:57 PM
Anyone use this rope before, not to be cheap but we sell them at work. Doesn't say 0 stretch though. The top one

http://http://i62.tinypic.com/r0t34l.jpg

KxCorky
06-02-2014, 12:57 PM
http://i62.tinypic.com/r0t34l.jpg

02ProstarSammyD
06-02-2014, 01:12 PM
A stretch rope used wakeboarding could cause more issues than a knock to the face!

mlawler34
06-02-2014, 01:20 PM
As much as it sucks to spend money on ropes, I have to agree that the newer Ronix, Straight Line, liquid force ropes are worth the investment. I have had a few bad popped handles and they never made it half way back to the boat.

Jeff d
06-02-2014, 01:34 PM
The brand doesn't really matter. The key is a Spectra or Dyneema core if you want low/no stretch.

02ProstarSammyD
06-02-2014, 01:37 PM
Go to your local wake shop and hold some handles. See what you like. The rope doesn't matter but the handle does 100%. You can really compound injuries with stretch ropes especially with new riders who like to hold on too long

Jeff d
06-02-2014, 01:42 PM
http://i62.tinypic.com/r0t34l.jpg

I doubt that's a spectra or dynema rope at $41 w/ handle.

This is about as cheap as you can get in a no-stretch rope:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MWRQWU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I had that one for a few years and it was good. The handle started falling apart around the 3rd season. I still have the rope itself 4 years later.

Jeff d
06-02-2014, 01:44 PM
This one's coated for the same price:
http://www.amazon.com/AIRHEAD-AHWR-4-Wakeboard-Spectra-Thermal/dp/B000OF926E

Mastercraft13
06-02-2014, 01:48 PM
The airhead one even sparkles in the sun according to the description!

This is probably considered a low stretch not a no stretch rope for the price. I would make the investment in a good quality rope/handle to avoid this in the future. Glad your ok with all things considered.

chrislandy
06-02-2014, 01:56 PM
You can get an Accurate wakeboard rope for around $60 (then add handle), I've got a "Zebra" Jacket and carbon handle and that's lasted at least 10+ years so the outlay isn't that bad when you look at the lifespan of the item

02ProstarSammyD
06-02-2014, 02:03 PM
I really like the overtons branded rope/handle but also had an aerial rope/handle ($75) that I actually like and put into primary use. We got it on sale for 35 bucks. The new fatter handles are awesome if you have a big grip too

lentiman
06-02-2014, 02:39 PM
+1 on this

The brand doesn't really matter. The key is a Spectra or Dyneema core if you want low/no stretch.

KxCorky
06-02-2014, 02:50 PM
Thanks for the imput, Ill go to the shop tomorrow and get a new one.

pmikler
06-02-2014, 03:00 PM
I am not sure what others think about this but last couple of times I bought I purchased rope with attached handle. The handle always went and the rope was still great. This time around i bought the mainline and a handle- That way when the handle goes I just buy a new handle.

Both Spectra and Dyneema are made of Ultra high density polyethylene. The braid is just different (for the most part) In short don't get hung up on what its made of as long as its one of those 2.

madcityskier
06-02-2014, 04:27 PM
Try using the wakeboard rope for everything you reasonably can. Teaching people to get up and cross the wake on skis is fine with a wake line. Save the actual tournament rope and handle for the tournament skiers. Also, keeps guests from coating your good handle in sunblock (causing you to launch the handle aas you crack some ribs).

1redTA
06-02-2014, 04:38 PM
I have the green Airhead and really like it, but now I'm thinking about getting popped in the head I can't take a chance with any more head injuries

broncotw
06-02-2014, 04:41 PM
Hey Doug were the safety T-Tops standard on the 93 Prostars S&Ss? I have seen several 93s with them.

Would it be close to impossible to locate one in the event I wanted one?

MC205
06-02-2014, 04:53 PM
This one's coated for the same price:
http://www.amazon.com/AIRHEAD-AHWR-4-Wakeboard-Spectra-Thermal/dp/B000OF926E

I have this rope. My BIL popped it pretty good this past weekend. It made it about 3/4 of the way back to the boat. This is the first time I have seen this happen and it really opened my eyes to what can happen. :(

Jeff d
06-02-2014, 05:19 PM
I've seen the handle end up back in the boat on occasion even with high end no-stretch ropes. They don't typically come in with a lot of force like the one the OP talked about though. It just kinda lobs in rather than slingshoting back in with a lot of energy. If the handle breaks off and it's just the rope itself flying at you it doesn't carry much inertia so chances are it won't do any damage or hurt anything.

Rockman
06-02-2014, 05:22 PM
Hey Doug were the safety T-Tops standard on the 93 Prostars S&Ss? I have seen several 93s with them.

Would it be close to impossible to locate one in the event I wanted one?

I do not believe they were standard but an option for a couple of years.

There was an ad on CList (shows up every now and then) and I believe it was on Ski-it-again.com as well...some guy in Michigan was selling one but it looked too rough to me and did not have all the hardware...think he wanted like $450 for it.

mikeg205
06-02-2014, 06:03 PM
popped a rope yesterday... recoiled a bit into the boat - but not much...

KxCorky
06-04-2014, 10:55 AM
Well this makes my total concussions 8. No fun. Taking meds for the swelling in my head. I don't think it matters what the rope costs im going to buy a new one.

Hammer
06-04-2014, 11:03 AM
For those with towers you could stretch a cargo net between the tower legs. It would be a little getto but would work.

dvsone79
06-04-2014, 11:14 AM
Aerial dyneema line and handle combo for $70: http://www.h2osportswarehouse.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BT-RPWS75-BK

I have an Accurate 80' mainline and handle that has been popped out of the hands of a 275# dude who just wouldn't let go. Over and over again. Never even came close to the boat. But those run for $100+.