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lolodos111
05-19-2014, 07:09 AM
Hi,
I received my brand new X2 last week and I did test the wakesurf with the sruftabs. How disappointing was it... on my former X2 2012, the wake was almost perfect even with only 2 people on the boat and center ballast full and stab full.

On the new one, the wake is melting and looks to be flat because of the swim platform touching the water all the time. Did anybody heard anything about this issue ?? could it be that the platform would be installed at lower level than usual ??

thanks to help, hard to be that much disappointed with a brand new boat.

dt37803
05-19-2014, 07:20 AM
My new X2 has the surf package and my swim platform has a 2 inch filler block added to the brackets to raise it up . Check the tab locations, acuator pin should be in the hole farthest from the boat. it makes a difference in the wake size and shape.

dt37803
05-19-2014, 07:23 AM
Picture

lolodos111
05-19-2014, 07:28 AM
OK I will check that this evening. I guess it could make a big difference and hopefully it's just that to change :) thanks much

dt37803
05-19-2014, 07:33 AM
trying to upload a video now

dt37803
05-19-2014, 07:47 AM
Video don't laugh it's my first ever attempt at surfing

lolodos111
05-19-2014, 07:58 AM
nice :) .. how many people and what ballast setup did you have ???

dt37803
05-19-2014, 08:01 AM
2 in boat and stock gen 2 system using surf left program pretty easy to use. Just a lousy old surfer

MattsCraft
05-19-2014, 08:42 AM
Wave looks real good to me, I don't think the swim platform is causing any issue.

Not that I am an expert, but my son is from watching him countless hours surfing, I would say you need to move your position on the wave a couple feet to you right and up about a foot toward the boat - into the sweet spot.

MattsCraft
05-19-2014, 08:47 AM
More like this, your position is out in the wash, outside of the sweet spot:D

dt37803
05-19-2014, 08:51 AM
We are going out again Wednesday to try it some more. I think I can get it soon that was my first attempt and got a little better by the end of the day. The thing about the gen 2 system is the tabs don't kick in till the cruise speed locks in so there is an instant change in the wake when starting out.

lolodos111
05-22-2014, 06:24 AM
well apparently, the problem came from the pipes of the exhauster which were not "cut" enough and did interfere on the wake as they were too deep into the water. After tuning them up, the wake is back to normal :)

lolodos111
06-24-2014, 08:34 AM
Since we did arrange the pipes, the wake is a touch better, but the wake is still melting a lot, creating a lot of foam, particularly on the goofy side. We tried every kind of ballast and weight setup but can't find a solution. Could be a problem with the prop ?? Cause we did test another X2 2014 and the wake is perfect, it' happens only on ours :(

KnoxX2
06-24-2014, 06:18 PM
It almost sounds like your starboard surf tab is dragging. I would check the positions of the surf tabs. You could have a bad actuator that is not allowing the tab to retract all the way up. Thus allowing it to drag and create whitewash.

dt37803
06-24-2014, 06:36 PM
I posted a pic of both sides surfing under random pic thread last night port side is a bit cleaner lowered speed to 10.4 and drained rear ballast 30 seconds after filling full

lolodos111
06-25-2014, 09:16 AM
As we still cannot find any solutions, pls check on the pics if you can see anything which looks wrong cause our Mastercraft specialist keeps searchning.

FourFourty
06-25-2014, 09:38 AM
No Center tab??? You need that for a clean starboard wake...... It should have come with gen2.....

Also, judging by the steepness of your wake pics, I would guess you need more front weight. What weight configuration are you running??

lolodos111
06-25-2014, 09:43 AM
No trim, it came only with the Pro Pack and costs more than USD 12k here in Switzerland. So we only took the Surf Tabs and Mastercraft never mention we had to take the TRim with it. Weight config is very usual, center ballast full and one side ballast full. It worked perfectly with our old 2010 X2 without surf tabs.

Stefan
06-25-2014, 10:05 AM
No trim, it came only with the Pro Pack and costs more than USD 12k here in Switzerland. So we only took the Surf Tabs and Mastercraft never mention we had to take the TRim with it. Weight config is very usual, center ballast full and one side ballast full. It worked perfectly with our old 2010 X2 without surf tabs.

Center tab cleans the Wake pretty neatly on my X46, retrofit should be not too complicated...

But on to easier things first, fill all tanks since it's a Gen2! Also for testing throw a fatsac in the rear, center or surfside. The platform should be under water for a good surf...

Where are you? Bodensee?
Might want to check this out, most of the footage is from a 2012 X2 (white/grey upholstery) with no tabs at all, looks similar. (https://vimeo.com/87506418)

lolodos111
06-25-2014, 10:10 AM
well we did try every ballast setup but still the wake is washed out. As I can see on your X2 wakesurf footage, the wake is exactly like our old 2010 wake and we just want to get that back. we are running the wakeboarding club in Lutry (Geneva lake) www.osmosiswake.ch

dt37803
06-25-2014, 12:26 PM
went to Mastercraft.co ,build a boat X2 This is what you see under gen 2
INCLUDES: WAKE SHAPING DEVICE/ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT PLATE/ BALLAST BAGS (2)/ INSTALLED HOSE KIT FOR BALLAST BAGS

ap77
06-25-2014, 03:51 PM
No Center tab??? You need that for a clean starboard wake...... It should have come with gen2.....

Also, judging by the steepness of your wake pics, I would guess you need more front weight. What weight configuration are you running??

+ 1 on FourFourty's recommendation. That looks like our wave before we added the the center tab. It cleans up the wave, even in the up position.

ap77
06-25-2014, 04:04 PM
The center tab is important if you want to clean up your wake. Add more weight if you want a larger wake.

Here is a before after photo.

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dt37803
06-25-2014, 04:16 PM
If you paid for Gen 2 Surf package with your 2014 X2 it included the center tab. If yours is not on it I would be contacting MC or have your dealer contact them since it is missing from your boat. The center attitude plate and surf tabs are included together with extra ballast bags for the rear locker and Gen 2 software on your screen. Also the swim platform has a 3 inch riser to lift it out of the water more (I see it on your platform already) The combination of all of this works great for a switchable surf wave right out of the box.

dt37803
06-25-2014, 04:19 PM
Also Was the surf package installed by your dealer or was it put on at the factory during production?

Stefan
06-26-2014, 01:44 AM
I'm guessing that the tabs were retrofitted, and the dealer said you can skip the center tab for surfing because he doesent know better...

If the boat came without the center tab fom the factory, it's missing something that should have been there from the factory

lolodos111
07-09-2014, 05:07 AM
Well it looks that they did install Gen2 instead of Gen1 and now we are keep pushing to get a solution from MC, but apparently they don't take it very seriously. As we are a club, we need to have this problem to be fixed as soon as possible as we are already losing members.

SchuyHigh
07-09-2014, 02:56 PM
Have to be able to shape it! Good Luck!

lolodos111
08-04-2014, 05:20 AM
Finally we got our X2 upgraded from Gen1 into Gen2. As a result we could get a perfect regular wake with 100% ballasts + fatsacs and 10% adjustment plate to clear the small wash. BUT the goofy side stays horrible. We could get a correct wake with some people in the boat on the Staboard side and 50% Ballasts + fatsacs on Port side and 35% adjustment plate. No chance to get that wkae twice in a row. It's a nightmare, we have no idea why it can happen such big difference between both sides. If somebody knows, please help and if Mastercraft Company read that, pls do something for a wakeboarding club !!!!

Dave911rsr
08-04-2014, 06:48 AM
The wake is fine, just pull in on the line and move to the right

lolodos111
08-08-2014, 02:49 AM
still trying to setup the goofy side. it's so unconstant. once it's a perfect wake but after 5 minutes fine tuning, but most of the time, it's a big mess :( regular side looks much better, but even there we have sometimes some fils without any explanations. Can't understand wha't wrong cause we have the Gen2 complete setup now. IF anybody could help, or anybody who knows someone infleuent at MC could help ???

Thrall
08-08-2014, 01:17 PM
Slightly off topic but how much does raising the platform help? Any comparisons between X2s with and wo the platform blocks? Looks like that's factory now.
Easy mod on my 06. Not adding tabs. It has a pretty good surf wave already IMO.