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cbryan70
04-02-2014, 11:01 AM
Any recommendations of what you guys bring on the boat?

I have read good things about this little thing
http://www.amazon.com/PowerAll-PBJS12000R-Rosso-Portable-Starter/dp/B00D42AFS8/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1396450839&sr=1-6&keywords=jump+starter

cbryan70
04-02-2014, 11:04 AM
Or this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Antigravity-Batteries-Micro-Start-Multi-Function-Personal/dp/B00FDYYK4A/ref=pd_sbs_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1PE56JFGQZ7GC2VQVPPM

cbryan70
04-02-2014, 01:25 PM
anyone have one of these antigravity jump starters?

_fng_
04-02-2014, 01:27 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Clore-JNC300XL-Jump-N-Carry-Ultraportable-12-Volt/dp/B000XQ9MGE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396459564&sr=8-1&keywords=portable+jump+starter

I've got this one, I've never jumped my boat but have used it several times on other people's boats without issues. It says to charge between jumps but I forgot once and it jumped the second boat without a problem. I think East TX recommended this or something similar which is why I got it.

bsloop
04-02-2014, 01:34 PM
Put the money toward another battery and pair of 20-25' jumper cables.

jbkriss
04-02-2014, 01:41 PM
are you kidding me? jump starters are that small now? amazing times we live in!

thatsmrmastercraft
04-02-2014, 01:42 PM
There is no way any of those tiny jump starters are going to work when you have a dead battery.

I have a Peak 900 and have been very happy with it, though I have never needed to use if for the boat. It also has a USB and a 110 volt outlet.

http://www.amazon.com/Peak-PKC0AQ-Starter-Inflator-Inverter/dp/B0066IU6OA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396460324&sr=8-2&keywords=peak+jump+starter+900

cbryan70
04-02-2014, 01:53 PM
There is no way any of those tiny jump starters are going to work when you have a dead battery.

I have a Peak 900 and have been very happy with it, though I have never needed to use if for the boat. It also has a USB and a 110 volt outlet.

http://www.amazon.com/Peak-PKC0AQ-Starter-Inflator-Inverter/dp/B0066IU6OA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396460324&sr=8-2&keywords=peak+jump+starter+900

Thats what I thought as well but the reviews on it are crazy. Read about it on a few other forums and all positive as well.

_fng_
04-02-2014, 01:56 PM
There is no way any of those tiny jump starters are going to work when you have a dead battery.



In the instances I've used mine (link above) people were out listening to music all day and couldn't get the boat to crank so probably not doornail dead but got the job done.

Sodar
04-02-2014, 01:58 PM
There is no way any of those tiny jump starters are going to work when you have a dead battery.

I have a Peak 900 and have been very happy with it, though I have never needed to use if for the boat. It also has a USB and a 110 volt outlet.

http://www.amazon.com/Peak-PKC0AQ-Starter-Inflator-Inverter/dp/B0066IU6OA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396460324&sr=8-2&keywords=peak+jump+starter+900

Thats what I thought as well but the reviews on it are crazy. Read about it on a few other forums and all positive as well.

Exactly over 600 positives. The Peak has less than 20 and less stars.

I had no idea they were that small. I may get one to leave in the truck. Jumping with cables is a pain!!

jbkriss
04-02-2014, 01:58 PM
In the instances I've used mine (link above) people were out listening to music all day and couldn't get the boat to crank so probably not doornail dead but got the job done.

I agree. I've found that a battery that is truly dead, won't take a jump or a charge.

cbryan70
04-02-2014, 02:05 PM
Exactly over 600 positives. The Peak has less than 20 and less stars.

I had no idea they were that small. I may get one to leave in the truck. Jumping with cables is a pain!!
This seems to be the one every recommends as it has been out the longest. Everything I have read says that snapon/maaco are selling them like crazy to mechanics...They generally dont sell junk to their mechanics if they want to keep their buisness. there was a small blurb about them on Riverdaves. Also thehulltruth.com
http://www.amazon.com/Antigravity-Batteries-Micro-Start-Multi-Function-Personal/dp/B00FDYYK4A/ref=pd_sbs_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1PE56JFGQZ7GC2VQVPPM

thatsmrmastercraft
04-02-2014, 02:21 PM
May as well have this. If those tiny jump start packs worked, the battery in our trucks and boats could be a lot smaller.

http://www.amazon.com/SOLAR-ESA1-Male-Outlet-Charger/dp/B000GTOSTE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1396462650&sr=8-4&keywords=cigarette+lighter+jump+starter

cmarty123
04-02-2014, 03:22 PM
I leave one of these in the boat:

http://www.amazon.com/Clore-JNC660-Jump-N-Carry-12-Volt-Starter/dp/B000JFJLP6/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1396466229&sr=1-1&keywords=jnc660

I might take it out once during the summer and recharge it. No problems with v8's. I bought our boat with two batteries, but we don't do the sit and listen thing for hours, so I bought this instead when one of the batteries died.

onewheat
04-03-2014, 12:28 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Clore-JNC300XL-Jump-N-Carry-Ultraportable-12-Volt/dp/B000XQ9MGE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396459564&sr=8-1&keywords=portable+jump+starter

I've got this one, I've never jumped my boat but have used it several times on other people's boats without issues. It says to charge between jumps but I forgot once and it jumped the second boat without a problem. I think East TX recommended this or something similar which is why I got it.

I've got this one - sometimes it works - other times it fails to jump the car even with a fresh charge. This past year, it was pretty much used to jump my lawn tractor all summer. I'll just buy a new battery this spring for the tractor - maybe the jump pack is due for a new one too?

I would NOT think those small ones would work for jumping something with a dead battery.

east tx skier
04-03-2014, 09:59 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Clore-JNC300XL-Jump-N-Carry-Ultraportable-12-Volt/dp/B000XQ9MGE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396459564&sr=8-1&keywords=portable+jump+starter

I've got this one, I've never jumped my boat but have used it several times on other people's boats without issues. It says to charge between jumps but I forgot once and it jumped the second boat without a problem. I think East TX recommended this or something similar which is why I got it.

Yep, that's the one I have. Jumped a car or two, but the boat has behaved ever since I got it.

east tx skier
04-03-2014, 10:00 AM
There is no way any of those tiny jump starters are going to work when you have a dead battery.

I have a Peak 900 and have been very happy with it, though I have never needed to use if for the boat. It also has a USB and a 110 volt outlet.

http://www.amazon.com/Peak-PKC0AQ-Starter-Inflator-Inverter/dp/B0066IU6OA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396460324&sr=8-2&keywords=peak+jump+starter+900

Mine has jumped a too low to turn over" car battery no problem.

NorthCentral Customs
04-06-2014, 07:07 PM
Here is a the one I have. will jump 20 cars with a 30% battery that is in a car before it needs a recharge and also charges phones and mp3 players. Also has a light. I have jump started full size trucks to cars even jump started a 4 cycl. car without a battery.
http://www.jackco.com/Zeta/Jumpstarter/ZT50400-50420.htm

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af182/pdombrowicki/Excursion/ZT50420-content_zpsf8b54c9a.jpg

Footin
04-06-2014, 07:15 PM
I was thinking about adding a second battery this year, but this might be the way to go.

willg
04-06-2014, 08:22 PM
I have to plug the jump and carry models (amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=jump%20and%20carry&sprefix=jump+and+c%2Cautomotive&rh=i%3Aautomotive%2Ck%3Ajump%20and%20carry)). I have the JNC660 and it will start anything. You can even run a car directly off it without a battery. I wouldn't buy anything that has a built in compressor or any of that garbage, they have always been worthless in my experience.

jschildm
04-07-2014, 05:08 PM
Usually they will list a cranking or cold cranking amps rating which will be quite a bit less than the "peak amps" listed. This would be what I would go by if its going to be used for starting an engine or jumping a dead battery. For instance the JNC 660 is listed as 425 cranking amps (1700 peak amps) and the ZETA linked in NorthCentral Customs post is 200 cold cranking amps (400 peak amps). I have a peak 900 with not really any other bells and whistles and its list as 450 cranking amps.

cbryan70
01-18-2016, 12:47 PM
well....Last year my FIL bought me one of the little lithium ION jump packs....Last week I finally had to use it on my wifes car. Trailblazer....it fired the thing right up with no issues....

I was impressed. They do work

thatsmrmastercraft
01-18-2016, 12:52 PM
well....Last year my FIL bought me one of the little lithium ION jump packs....Last week I finally had to use it on my wifes car. Trailblazer....it fired the thing right up with no issues....

I was impressed. They do work

Interesting to hear Bryan. How dead was the wife's battery? Did the unit provide normal engine cranking speed?

icecold
01-18-2016, 12:55 PM
Bought small pack for the New X30 on WOOT hope it works says it has the power for up to a 5.7 engine!!!! I ordered a 6.0. Hope I do not have to use it.....this year at least.

cbryan70
01-18-2016, 01:06 PM
Interesting to hear Bryan. How dead was the wife's battery? Did the unit provide normal engine cranking speed?

It was dead enough that it would not even make the start click. The dome light in the car was dim.

Engine cranked at I would say almost full speed. About as full of speed as batteries crank when its 5 degrees outside...:rolleyes:

thatsmrmastercraft
01-18-2016, 01:09 PM
It was dead enough that it would not even make the start click. The dome light in the car was dim.

Engine cranked at I would say almost full speed. About as full of speed as batteries crank when its 5 degrees outside...:rolleyes:

Can't argue with that.

mikeg205
01-18-2016, 01:09 PM
Amazing how that little pack can start a car.. Would be a nice accessory in boat... for that just in case moment..

thatsmrmastercraft
01-18-2016, 01:10 PM
Amazing how that little pack can start a car.. Would be a nice accessory in boat... for that just in case moment..

Definitely.

cbryan70
01-18-2016, 01:15 PM
Amazing how that little pack can start a car.. Would be a nice accessory in boat... for that just in case moment..

Thats why I got it. I have not had to use it in the boat yet...but I am glad to know it works.

cbryan70
01-18-2016, 01:15 PM
it also will start a lawn tractor with a completely dead battery no problem. I used it for a weekend of that off one charge and also jumped the car off that same charge. I should probably charge it now but it is saying its still full

thatsmrmastercraft
01-18-2016, 01:18 PM
Which unit did you get Bryan?

cbryan70
01-18-2016, 01:21 PM
Ill look when I get home. Still sitting inside waiting to be charged. Ill text you a picture Pete.

thatsmrmastercraft
01-18-2016, 01:24 PM
Thanks Bryan.

Snipe
01-18-2016, 03:32 PM
well....Last year my FIL bought me one of the little lithium ION jump packs....Last week I finally had to use it on my wifes car. Trailblazer....it fired the thing right up with no issues....

I was impressed. They do work

Which one of ALL the afore mentioned starters did you get? There were quite a few mentioned. Sounds too good to be true. If it does work like you said I sure would like to be prepared. Hope we never need it. I now use a battery disconnect switch but that is a pain to have to reset radio all the time.

Snipe
01-18-2016, 03:34 PM
Ill look when I get home. Still sitting inside waiting to be charged. Ill text you a picture Pete.
PM me one too if you don't mind.

cbryan70
01-19-2016, 07:16 PM
I have the all-start boost max its about 170 on amazon. I'll dig up a link when I'm on a cpu. There are others you just want one with the most cranking amps. The one I have is 400 cranking 609 or 809 max

uplander
01-19-2016, 07:28 PM
I bought one last year and just jumped neighbor's new VW, jumped it no problem. Brand is Rockford, works great for charging cell phones also

The VW was dead no click or nothing, jumped it like nothing. I was very impressed with it.

this is the one
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Power-Source-Mini-Starter/dp/B00JLPNHJQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453249707&sr=8-1&keywords=rockford+battery+jump+starter

cbryan70
01-19-2016, 07:45 PM
I bought one last year and just jumped neighbor's new VW, jumped it no problem. Brand is Rockford, works great for charging cell phones also

The VW was dead no click or nothing, jumped it like nothing. I was very impressed with it.

this is the one
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Power-Source-Mini-Starter/dp/B00JLPNHJQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453249707&sr=8-1&keywords=rockford+battery+jump+starter

I swear that is the same unit as mine just cheaper. Same jump cables looks the same everything

ttu
01-19-2016, 07:48 PM
I swear that is the same unit as mine just cheaper. Same jump cables looks the same everything

about dang time you got back with us wanting to know which one you have! lazy!!!!:D:D

thatsmrmastercraft
01-19-2016, 08:44 PM
I want to see one jump a dead V-8. I think a few D cell batteries could get a 4 banger going. These do sound like the real deal though.

FrankSchwab
01-19-2016, 09:54 PM
I used mine to start the 5.4 Liter V8 in my Expedition last week. Battery read 4V, hooked up my $50 Lithium pack, walked to the door and turned the key - cranked it right up. Amazed the hell out of me.

thatsmrmastercraft
01-19-2016, 10:55 PM
I used mine to start the 5.4 Liter V8 in my Expedition last week. Battery read 4V, hooked up my $50 Lithium pack, walked to the door and turned the key - cranked it right up. Amazed the hell out of me.

That answers that. Which on do you have?

jgraham37128
01-19-2016, 10:58 PM
I want to see one jump a dead V-8. I think a few D cell batteries could get a 4 banger going. These do sound like the real deal though.

Noco gb70 will do this easily. They even make one larger for a Diesel.

NOCO is the Mastercraft version of the booster packs. Worth every penny.

cbryan70
01-19-2016, 11:42 PM
Noco gb70 will do this easily. They even make one larger for a Diesel.

NOCO is the Mastercraft version of the booster packs. Worth every penny.

That thing gets some bad reviews.

Antigravity was one of the first on the market with these if you want one that has been around.

Seeing the price that mine is going for 180.00 if I were to pay for one at that price I would get the 150 anti gravity.

Z13
01-20-2016, 09:37 AM
I keep one of these in my truck at all times. I understand the need for a jump pack on your boat is different from my needs but the reason I bought this one is due to the following;
1. For $100 I get a jump pack and an air compressor
2. Great Reviews.
3. I have been able to use it on multiple cars that were dead as a chuck and it worked quickly
4. I can also use it to charge devices.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JRWU9A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

FrankSchwab
01-20-2016, 11:54 AM
That answers that. Which on do you have?

No-Name one I got on a closeout deal - you'll have to get a recommendation from someone else.

thatsmrmastercraft
01-20-2016, 01:08 PM
No-Name one I got on a closeout deal - you'll have to get a recommendation from someone else.

Thanks. Seems like most of these get good reviews.

cbryan70
01-20-2016, 01:14 PM
Thanks. Seems like most of these get good reviews.

they really do from what I can see. Just look for the most CA and you will be good. 50-100 seems to be the range.

cbryan70
01-20-2016, 01:22 PM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013AI1FJI?psc=1

this is the one I have
http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=CAL560&source=froogle&kw=CAL560&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_fy0BRCwiLaQ5-iFgpwBEiQA884sOU-c2x3pCkSPLF2qlChDyAXBR_AdXXD7vJp-oAulcjkaAt2c8P8HAQ

thatsmrmastercraft
01-20-2016, 07:04 PM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013AI1FJI?psc=1

this is the one I have
http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=CAL560&source=froogle&kw=CAL560&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_fy0BRCwiLaQ5-iFgpwBEiQA884sOU-c2x3pCkSPLF2qlChDyAXBR_AdXXD7vJp-oAulcjkaAt2c8P8HAQ

I will definitely have one before the boating season starts.

uplander
01-20-2016, 08:16 PM
I swear that is the same unit as mine just cheaper. Same jump cables looks the same everything


Looking at some of the pictures they do look alike, same manufacturer with different branding

The VW I jumped was a 2015 sedan with all the bells and whistles, I figured it would not let me do it with all the computer stuff. I hooked it up got the green light and cranked it over. It was also very cold out like 10 above zero.

customcruiser
01-20-2016, 11:04 PM
I have a Cobra model... started wife's 5.7 Sequoia multiple times on 1 charge.

So impressed that I'll buy another for her to always have in car

Snipe
01-21-2016, 06:53 AM
I will definitely have one before the boating season starts.
Which one are you thinking of getting?

Snipe
01-23-2016, 09:19 AM
I just ordered this one; looks as if it is one of the better rated for a smaller unit.
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Power-Source-Mini-Starter/dp/B00JLPNHJQ
Hope it does it's job.

It came two days after I ordered it. Nice compact case as well. It came with two charging lights on and only took two hours to completely recharge to full capacity. It has all the bells and whistles just as advertised. Rated with all 5 stars filled. I read most of the reviews and had to get one. Looking for someone to use it on, hope it's not me.:rolleyes:

bturner2
01-23-2016, 09:36 AM
I've had the Anti gravity jump pack for 2 years. It's been great. I've jumped boats, cars and really impressed one of the local scrapers we have came by one day and asked for a jump when his F250 with a 5.4 wouldn't start. He couldn't believe that little jump pack actually started his truck. Got to admit I was too.

http://www.amazon.com/Antigravity-Ba...FGQZ7GC2VQVPPM

TX.X-30 fan
01-23-2016, 10:54 AM
I just ordered this one; looks as if it is one of the better rated for a smaller unit.
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Power-Source-Mini-Starter/dp/B00JLPNHJQ
Hope it does it's job.

That little thing will really start a truck? Will it do cordless drill batteries?

Jetlag
01-23-2016, 12:24 PM
I used the Noco GB70 on my Dodge Ram (5.7L hemi not diesel ) and once on my 351 stars & strips with no battery...not recommended with no battery because you must bypass safety features.
https://no.co/media/nocodownloads/format/g/b/gb70_info_sheet.pdf

thatsmrmastercraft
01-23-2016, 02:30 PM
Which one are you thinking of getting?

I just ordered this one; looks as if it is one of the better rated for a smaller unit.
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Power-Source-Mini-Starter/dp/B00JLPNHJQ
Hope it does it's job.

The one you got looks pretty good. I assume you will do a full performance review as soon as you get yours. Headlights on overnight to draw the battery down and see what it does?

TX.X-30 fan
01-23-2016, 02:34 PM
The one you got looks pretty good. I assume you will do a full performance review as soon as you get yours. Headlights on overnight to draw the battery down and see what it does?

Demanding ba$tard.

thatsmrmastercraft
01-23-2016, 02:36 PM
Demanding ba$tard.

I'm not demanding...

Snipe
01-23-2016, 02:36 PM
The one you got looks pretty good. I assume you will do a full performance review as soon as you get yours. Headlights on overnight to draw the battery down and see what it does?

I should get it between the 28th and the 30th of this month. Will report on it's performance. I sure hope it'll be a good one.;)

TX.X-30 fan
01-23-2016, 02:42 PM
I'm not demanding...



My apology, Shameless Beggar?......:)

thatsmrmastercraft
01-23-2016, 02:47 PM
My apology, Shameless Beggar?......:)

On second thought, let's go back to demanding.:rolleyes:

Footin
01-23-2016, 02:49 PM
I bought this one last year at Menards: http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive-marine-hardware/automotive-batteries-chargers-jumpers/stanley-300-amp-jump-starter/p-1444424540369-c-9100.htm?tid=-7502474434695146855

I only have a single battery in my boat and figured it was cheaper than a second battery set up. I lent it to a guy to jump a jetski once and it worked well, and then I used it once to jump my sisters SUV. Good investment.

thatsmrmastercraft
01-23-2016, 03:06 PM
I bought this one last year at Menards: http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive-marine-hardware/automotive-batteries-chargers-jumpers/stanley-300-amp-jump-starter/p-1444424540369-c-9100.htm?tid=-7502474434695146855

I only have a single battery in my boat and figured it was cheaper than a second battery set up. I lent it to a guy to jump a jetski once and it worked well, and then I used it once to jump my sisters SUV. Good investment.

I have a large jump start pack that I have used a fair amount. These compact units are intriguing.

TX.X-30 fan
01-23-2016, 03:14 PM
I have a large jump start pack that I have used a fair amount. These compact units are intriguing.



I like the cell phone, laptop charging too, be nice if it did cordless drill batteries.

x55
02-02-2016, 08:19 PM
antigravity has the BEST reviews of all portable jump starters

Bwag1961
02-02-2016, 08:27 PM
Just bought a NOCO. Will have to see how it performs. Based on the reviews, it looked pretty good.

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

jgraham37128
02-02-2016, 09:48 PM
Just bought a NOCO. Will have to see how it performs. Based on the reviews, it looked pretty good.

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk


I find NOCO to be top notch!

x55
02-02-2016, 10:04 PM
have had the goco and the antigravity…antigravity performs much better imho

Beg4wake
02-03-2016, 01:01 PM
I just used the one in the original post of this thread a week ago to jump a dead car... It actually surprised me how well it worked!! I'm ordering one now as we speak!

x55
02-03-2016, 09:27 PM
amazon likes the noco and the antigravity. a recent consumers report ranked the antigravity number 1 and the noco last?

cbryan70
02-04-2016, 01:09 AM
I like my allstart.....

jgraham37128
02-04-2016, 08:00 AM
Looking at both website's the NOCO GB70 Peak amps is 2000A and the largest Antigravity XP-10 is rated at 600 peak Amps?

I'm not sure how the Antigravity could out perform the NOCO. Can you send me a link to the consumers report?

cbryan70
02-04-2016, 10:33 AM
Looking at both website's the NOCO GB70 Peak amps is 2000A and the largest Antigravity XP-10 is rated at 600 peak Amps?

I'm not sure how the Antigravity could out perform the NOCO. Can you send me a link to the consumers report?

2000A......most car batteries are 1200A tops.... 2000A is BS

The main think you want to look for is Cranking amps or CCA not Peak amps....

Most of these little packs are 200-400 Cranking amps with 600-800 Peak amps.

x55
02-04-2016, 06:24 PM
Jgoogle search jump starter buying guide. Consumer reports

jgraham37128
02-04-2016, 06:43 PM
I see the one for the GB30 but not the GB70 which is the larger unit.

NOCO Data sheet says Peak Current amps are 2000A?
Antigravity says peak amps of 600A on the XP-10?
Both are priced about the same.

jgraham37128
02-04-2016, 06:44 PM
2000A......most car batteries are 1200A tops.... 2000A is BS

The main think you want to look for is Cranking amps or CCA not Peak amps....

Most of these little packs are 200-400 Cranking amps with 600-800 Peak amps.

I don't see CCA on any of their data sheets.

x55
02-04-2016, 08:48 PM
I see the one for the GB30 but not the GB70 which is the larger unit.

NOCO Data sheet says Peak Current amps are 2000A?
Antigravity says peak amps of 600A on the XP-10?
Both are priced about the same.


What did we ever find out about what 3rd party testing by consumer reports said is their top pick? Seems like the rest is all personal opinion was hoping to get some facts from forum

DocPhil
02-04-2016, 08:59 PM
Looking at both website's the NOCO GB70 Peak amps is 2000A and the largest Antigravity XP-10 is rated at 600 peak Amps?

I'm not sure how the Antigravity could out perform the NOCO. Can you send me a link to the consumers report?

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/jump-starters/buying-guide.htm

TX.X-30 fan
02-04-2016, 09:35 PM
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/jump-starters/buying-guide.htm



Sounds like they would be useless for a boat or car in Texas for six months of the year. I like how they charge all kinds of other stuff though. I guess you could keep it in a cooler on the boat or truck in the summer, nothing wrong with a cooler with a few cold beers in it for after work in the summer.

Combine this thread with the yeti thread, perfection.

Jetlag
02-05-2016, 12:10 AM
I don't see CCA on any of their data sheets.

CCA is for lead batteries at 0* F and lithium batteries perform real poorly in low temps.

x55
02-05-2016, 07:56 AM
Looks like some people prefer conjecture over fact. Going with the antigravity.

jgraham37128
02-05-2016, 10:34 AM
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/jump-starters/buying-guide.htm

Am I blind or am I the only one who READS the actual report? Does this say they tested the GB30?


"QUOTE"
Incidentally, price turned out to be little indication of performance. While the best-performing jumper pack (Antigravity Batteries XP-10, $125) was the most expensive, the weakest performer (Pilot InstaBoost) was not the least expensive--we paid $100 for it. And the second-priciest model (Noco Genius Boost GB30, $105) came in second-to-last place in our ratings.


Quit trying to sell me a Pro-Star for wake-surfing.....

cbryan70
02-05-2016, 01:20 PM
I am telling you that 2000A is a joke. You want cranking amps or starting amps they all list them different. Peak amps dont really matter.

200-400 is what most will be for "cranking amps or starting amps"

500-800 Is what the "peak amps" will be.

My all start link
http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=ALL560
Started my wifes trailblazer when it was 5 degrees out. I had not charged it in over 5 months and used it multiple times to jump start a tractor before starting my wifes car.

My FIL is a mechanic and uses his often to jump vehicles.... He bought this for me.

Rockman
02-05-2016, 01:53 PM
Don't these things start on fire? ;):cool:

TX.X-30 fan
02-05-2016, 07:03 PM
I like that one cbryan70, nice review.

cbryan70
02-05-2016, 07:33 PM
Don't these things start on fire? ;):cool:

Spontaneously!!!!!!!!

dfski
01-26-2019, 05:33 PM
Reviving an old thread. Considering buying one of these, primarily for mine and my son’s ProStars (both have 351s). Two that have caught my attention and should be up to the job are the Allstart Max Boost 560 and the NOCO GB40. Price is similar. Was wondering what the current thinking is, especially regarding these two.

JimN
01-26-2019, 07:46 PM
Reviving an old thread. Considering buying one of these, primarily for mine and my son’s ProStars (both have 351s). Two that have caught my attention and should be up to the job are the Allstart Max Boost 560 and the NOCO GB40. Price is similar. Was wondering what the current thinking is, especially regarding these two.

You can use one, but remember- the alternator isn't there or designed to charge a battery that's stone dead and as soon as you connect a good battery to a dead one, they'll try to balance the charge level. Best practice is to connect it, let it balance the charges for a while and if it cranks slowly, use a real battery to charge it more before cranking. Cranking with a battery that's almost dead kills starters, too. Also, DO NOT jump start an engine with the donor engine running- that's a good way to kill the voltage regulator.

dfski
01-27-2019, 10:11 AM
Thanks Jim, especially your caution about the donor engine running. I wasn't aware of that.
Always thought it should be running.

Anybody have any thoughts/experience on the Max Boost 560 or the GB40?

pf597
01-27-2019, 10:39 AM
I have a GB 40 and it's great. Never needed on the boat but I've used it on a couple waverunners and cars. Quality made and it will go a year before needing to be charged if it just sits. I have a few NOCO maintainers as well and all have been great.

JohnE
01-28-2019, 01:49 PM
Just a reminder, do not jumpstart the newer boats. It can kill the electronics. MC has a sticker warning of this in the new boats.

jkski
01-28-2019, 03:06 PM
Just a reminder, do not jumpstart the newer boats. It can kill the electronics. MC has a sticker warning of this in the new boats.

Interesting.....so is the only option then to replace the battery altogether if it dies or try to charge it?
I would think that this would apply to vehicles as well with all of the electronics.
Just curious if MC offers any suggestion for owners who may encounter a dead battery situation as I can admit that on more than 1 occasion I have failed to turn off the heater blower and found my battery dead the next morning only to have to nose my truck down the ramp to get jumper cables on. Granted mine is an 08.

JohnE
01-28-2019, 03:21 PM
Interesting.....so is the only option then to replace the battery altogether if it dies or try to charge it?
I would think that this would apply to vehicles as well with all of the electronics.
Just curious if MC offers any suggestion for owners who may encounter a dead battery situation as I can admit that on more than 1 occasion I have failed to turn off the heater blower and found my battery dead the next morning only to have to nose my truck down the ramp to get jumper cables on. Granted mine is an 08.

Yup, ruined an outing for me. I knew I forgot to turn off the batteries, but I didn't realize that they will drain to dead if you don't shut them off. It was only going to be a quick afternoon session. I really thought about going to buy 2 new batteries, but I just charged them and gave up on the day. Now that I know, it won't happen again.

jkski
01-28-2019, 03:29 PM
WOW, that surprises me that MC would not have a safe way to jump this without causing damage to the electronics. What year did this start?
There are likely a lot of owners out there who may not be aware of this and you can bet that torched electronics caused by jump starting will void a warranty. Certainly up to the buyer to read everything but this is a departure from what we have likely all been taught over the years.
Thanks for sharing the info.

White Bear MC
01-28-2019, 03:33 PM
Time to get a dual battery setup, although, that had failed me too and yes, I just purchased a new battery and swapped out

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LDA6339
01-28-2019, 04:11 PM
Yup, ruined an outing for me. I knew I forgot to turn off the batteries, but I didn't realize that they will drain to dead if you don't shut them off. It was only going to be a quick afternoon session. I really thought about going to buy 2 new batteries, but I just charged them and gave up on the day. Now that I know, it won't happen again.

What if you disconnected the house battery (and theoretically all the electronics) then jumped and ran the boat for a little bit to charge the cranking battery, then turned the boat off and reconnected the house battery and then cranked the boat, switched over to combine and ran the boat to charge both?

djdj68
01-28-2019, 06:34 PM
I have a GB70 and it’s fantastic

danwell
02-07-2019, 10:36 PM
I have a NOCO 1000A model. Very dependable unit.

swb911
02-08-2019, 11:25 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Noco-Genius-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B01BGF83BU/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=portable+noco+jump+starter&qid=1549642144&sr=8-7

I have one of these in every car and boat. They work very well, are safe for new electronics and will start anything... pretty amazing actually. I have started my large farm tractor as well as full size diesel truck with no issue.

btriantos
02-08-2019, 12:24 PM
Any recommendations of what you guys bring on the boat?

I have read good things about this little thing
http://www.amazon.com/PowerAll-PBJS12000R-Rosso-Portable-Starter/dp/B00D42AFS8/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1396450839&sr=1-6&keywords=jump+starter

This is the one (below) I would bring to the first start of the season I guess. I typically, bring my batteries home for the winter and keep them on a trickle charger and bring them back for spring. I have never had a dead battery at the beginning of the season. Also, have an onboard charger that I top off after every day while in season. The stereo system tends to bring the boat in negative overall power consumption by the end of a long day.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DNF8LHH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

CallMeGus
02-08-2019, 02:30 PM
Yup, ruined an outing for me. I knew I forgot to turn off the batteries, but I didn't realize that they will drain to dead if you don't shut them off. It was only going to be a quick afternoon session. I really thought about going to buy 2 new batteries, but I just charged them and gave up on the day. Now that I know, it won't happen again.

When I did the first ride with my 2017 X-23, the owner of the dealership I bought it from warned me to never use these devices or to ever jump the boat in concern for the electronics. Maybe that's just a CYA but that's what he told me.

btriantos
02-08-2019, 09:01 PM
When I did the first ride with my 2017 X-23, the owner of the dealership I bought it from warned me to never use these devices or to ever jump the boat in concern for the electronics. Maybe that's just a CYA but that's what he told me.



I’ve heard the same thing..best not to put yourself in that position to begin with.... but if you have to and you are dead on then ramp, what else can you do?



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ATLX30
02-10-2019, 09:04 AM
Appreciate this thread being brought back to life. I've now got on my list to trickle charge my batteries before first outing of the season (which I hope is only about 2 months away).

Patrick Hardy
02-10-2019, 02:25 PM
Appreciate this thread being brought back to life. I've now got on my list to trickle charge my batteries before first outing of the season (which I hope is only about 2 months away).
Not to hijack the thread...But, be careful with long term trickle charging. I have ALWAYS used Battery Tenders to keep my batteries charged, always wondering / noting the warning from their manuals...How long can I leave the Battery Tender® Plus battery charger connected to a battery?
In theory, you can leave the Battery Tender® Plus battery charger connected to a battery forever. That’s a really long time. Sales people like to say, “Just plug it in and forget about it!” However, practically speaking, it is a good idea to check on the battery at least once every couple of weeks. Strange things can happen. Sometimes a battery can have a weak cell that won’t show up until the worst possible time. Of course, that time is usually when the battery is connected to a charger, and you are out of town on vacation.
Well there's always a first time for everything. As usual, charging my battery on the work bench, charging perfectly as always, leave town for a few days and KaBOOM, complete Fukushima Daiichi nuclear meltdown. came home to battery parts and acid everywhere. what a nightmare. Certainly changes my mind on “Just plug it in and forget about it!”. Still love the product, but will keep a closer eye on it from now on. I could not imagine if the battery exploded inside the boat.

LDA6339
02-11-2019, 12:00 AM
Not to hijack the thread...But, be careful with long term trickle charging. I have ALWAYS used Battery Tenders to keep my batteries charged, always wondering / noting the warning from their manuals...How long can I leave the Battery Tender® Plus battery charger connected to a battery?
In theory, you can leave the Battery Tender® Plus battery charger connected to a battery forever. That’s a really long time. Sales people like to say, “Just plug it in and forget about it!” However, practically speaking, it is a good idea to check on the battery at least once every couple of weeks. Strange things can happen. Sometimes a battery can have a weak cell that won’t show up until the worst possible time. Of course, that time is usually when the battery is connected to a charger, and you are out of town on vacation.
Well there's always a first time for everything. As usual, charging my battery on the work bench, charging perfectly as always, leave town for a few days and KaBOOM, complete Fukushima Daiichi nuclear meltdown. came home to battery parts and acid everywhere. what a nightmare. Certainly changes my mind on “Just plug it in and forget about it!”. Still love the product, but will keep a closer eye on it from now on. I could not imagine if the battery exploded inside the boat.

Holy Cow! Who was the manufacturer of the tender you were using when this happened?

Patrick Hardy
02-13-2019, 02:32 PM
Holy Cow! Who was the manufacturer of the tender you were using when this happened?

Sorry for the delay, dealing with some crazy / historic snow storms hitting the Pacific Northwest (Seattle) area the last 10 days.
It was a 2 Bank Battery Tender Charging Station and a Autozone Marine Starting Battery. You can see it in the lower right side of the photo. Just a insane experience overall.