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Old 06-15-2006, 12:28 AM
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Slalom video set-up

Thinking about getting a video camera and pylon mount so I can film my slalom skiing (for educational purposes, improve my form). But someone told me that they don't work too good because the picture will be too jumpy to really see what's going on.

Anybody have experience with video setup? If it is worth it in your opinion, can you recommend some good, but relatively inexpensive, equipment? By that I mean good enough to give me a decent shot of what I'm doing, but I'm not trying to make "Edged in Water II"

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Old 06-15-2006, 12:36 AM
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Wakesport has one (camera mount) that he designed and made himself. From what he told us a Mag Mania, he gets some pretty good footage from it.
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:50 AM
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I just started doing this last month. You can buy a Trakker pylon mount, or you can do what I did. I just bungeed my tripod to the pylon and put a tiny clamp on to run the rope through. It's not the most elegant thing you've ever seen, but it works perfectly, and it saved me $160.

Get a nice small digital camcorder with image stabilization. My JVC mini-DV works really well. It doesn't bounce around too much. I will say this - my buddy has a really expensive 3ccd hard-drive digital camcorder, and every time we went over the wake - it crashed. I'd stick to a mini-DV. Order an extra big battery from Ebay.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:11 AM
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http://www.waterskivideo.com/

I have an older version and it works pretty good as long as you don't zoom in too much.

I've often thought about taking the part that loops around the rope and putting a handle on it so the observer can pan the camera.

Lerory made one out of PVC

I also believe the Trakker guy is a member here.....
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:18 AM
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Thinking about getting a video camera and pylon mount so I can film my slalom skiing (for educational purposes, improve my form). But someone told me that they don't work too good because the picture will be too jumpy to really see what's going on.

Anybody have experience with video setup? If it is worth it in your opinion, can you recommend some good, but relatively inexpensive, equipment? By that I mean good enough to give me a decent shot of what I'm doing, but I'm not trying to make "Edged in Water II"

Thanks.
I'm very impressed with the Trakker P3. Seems to be good isolation where the camera attaches, and it mounts solidly enough to the the pylon that I get very little jumpiness even in pretty rough water.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:33 AM
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I just got a Trakker P3 and am very happy with it. I get very steady video even with skiers at 32 and 35 off 36 mph. I am just using the video feature on my digital camera and it works great.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:53 AM
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I just tried my new trakker P3

The new damper works well as advertised. When you receive the unit you will think it is defective considering the effort needed to move the pivot, but this is normal. The only little problem is that I own a Sony digital 8 camera and the mounting hole in the bottom is not in the centerline of the base so it as a tendency to be angled instead of beeing perfectly horizontal, so I placed a small piece of masonite between the neoprene pad and the camera. The down side is that it is easily disturbed since it is slippery and I lost all the offside turns beeing out of the viewfiender. Solution, I will stick rubber on the masonite.

Other than that it is worth the investment since you start the camera and let it roll for as long as your tape will last getting all the coaching talk on it. Also put your focus on manual and set it since the rope lenght won't change. It will prevent the auto-focus to go in and out when a bit dark and it will stay clearer that way.

Have a good run

p.s. Brian at Wakevideo.com is nice and cooperative. I suggest you buy direct from him if you can. Being in Canada, internet stores sometimes make mistakes in shipping instructions.

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Old 06-15-2006, 10:29 AM
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Thinking about getting a video camera and pylon mount so I can film my slalom skiing (for educational purposes, improve my form). But someone told me that they don't work too good because the picture will be too jumpy to really see what's going on.

Anybody have experience with video setup? If it is worth it in your opinion, can you recommend some good, but relatively inexpensive, equipment? By that I mean good enough to give me a decent shot of what I'm doing, but I'm not trying to make "Edged in Water II"

Thanks.
You won't have any camera shake or bouncing at all if it's on there good and tight. Both my hillbilly trakker and my real trakker have stayed rock solid. Make sure you check the zoom before you hit that red button. It's not so exciting to have the best run of your life on tape and all you can see is your ankle.

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Old 06-15-2006, 10:38 AM
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I just started doing this last month. You can buy a Trakker pylon mount, or you can do what I did. I just bungeed my tripod to the pylon and put a tiny clamp on to run the rope through. It's not the most elegant thing you've ever seen, but it works perfectly, and it saved me $160.
Nice! I never thought of using C clamps. I went for the paint roller. Just keep watching Ebay, I got mine for about $40 due to a less than genious listing title.
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:24 AM
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I have an older trakker and it works well when there are only two of us (driver and skier). If you have digial image stabilization, use it. Don't zoom in too much because when there is a little rope slack, the camera will lag behind a bit.

The only problem I've had with mine is that the wing nut that keeps the swivel balanced on the pylon mount loosens up with every pivot. I need to get some sort of lot nut to keep it from backing off.
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