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Old 12-07-2017, 09:48 AM
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Look's like Brunswick knows how to fix it now.
How does selling the brand SR fix the issue considering boat sales are just a fraction of what they use to be? May as well just move production to China and ignore quality and customer retention all together, because if the best minds in marketing boats couldn't do it with SR, what can any boat builder do to get 5 year old boat owners to upgrade or new boat buyers to come into the boat ownership lifestyle?
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:55 AM
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may have lost some market share to pontoon boats, at least in the smaller lake boats market.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:29 PM
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I left SeaRay for one simple reason. Surfing.

My 240SD from SR was an exceptional family boat.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:57 PM
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I'm just praying they don't get bought by a foreign company so we don't have to hear roadster02 go off on another one of his rants.....
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:44 PM
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The cabin boats aren't selling as well--people are more into large dayboats that are better for the way they actually use them. (The floating condo vs the party boat.)

People are finally seeing the use of a real fishing boat--see above. The center console boats with outboards have ruled the gulf for a while.

The Runabout market has gone to towboats and pontoons.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:07 PM
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Another thing to consider is the major decrease in the family I/O runabout boat in the 18-24 range. On my home lake and other lakes in the upper Midwest these small sized runabouts dominated the lakes 10-15 years ago. They pulled tubers, people fished from them, and tied up to party. Now its very rare to see a new one. Almost all runabouts are 15-20 years old. Deck boats, fishing boats, and DD/VD boats dominate. It seams the relieable 4stroke outboard is killing the I/O.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:40 PM
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The cabin boats aren't selling as well--people are more into large dayboats that are better for the way they actually use them. (The floating condo vs the party boat.)

People are finally seeing the use of a real fishing boat--see above. The center console boats with outboards have ruled the gulf for a while.

The Runabout market has gone to towboats and pontoons.


My parents are making the switch for these reasons. The boat was the floating condo for a while, then they bought a condo and they never used the boat for its purpose anymore.

Y'all think inboards cost a lot in maintenance, own a yacht. The maintenance and upkeep required for one with MCOCD is through the roof. Waxing the boat from the waterline to the top was a 2-3 day process. Being the boat is in the sun 24/7, you are waxing every 4-5 months. Two big Diesel engines take some upkeep and every year you are pulling the boat out for a bottom job. Trust me, it adds up quickly.

Also, come hurricane season, there isn't an easy way to store a 50ft boat. So you are constantly having to move it and make predictions a week out. The ability to put a boat On a trailer and tow it where you want to go is the best option.


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Old 12-18-2017, 11:00 PM
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Y'all think inboards cost a lot in maintenance, own a yacht. The maintenance and upkeep required for one with MCOCD is through the roof. Waxing the boat from the waterline to the top was a 2-3 day process. Being the boat is in the sun 24/7, you are waxing every 4-5 months. Two big Diesel engines take some upkeep and every year you are pulling the boat out for a bottom job. Trust me, it adds up quickly.
I read somewhere that the annual operating costs of a yacht were typically 20% of the purchase price. So a $500,000 yacht would run you about $100,000/year to use it.
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Old 12-19-2017, 05:22 AM
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I read somewhere that the annual operating costs of a yacht were typically 20% of the purchase price. So a $500,000 yacht would run you about $100,000/year to use it.
On a larger used $500,000 Yacht, 40-60' , I would think 20% total cost to operate might be possible.
But even 10% would make you think twice.

Very hard to sell a used larger Yacht here in San Diego for the same reason
With in water storage limited and pricy, you could be buying a $20-75k per year commitment in a blink.
Been watching the same boats for sale online here for years.
Something to think about.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:13 AM
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I read somewhere that the annual operating costs of a yacht were typically 20% of the purchase price. So a $500,000 yacht would run you about $100,000/year to use it.
I think it ranges between 10%-20%. It really depends on upkeep and how much of the service you can do yourself. Quite frankly, most people that are buying these boats know nothing about the engines, mechanicals issues or electronics. My father pretty much did all of his own maintenance on the boat as the boat was his glorified man cave. I learned a lot about engines and etc. because of that boat by helping my father for 17 years.

We are all looking forward to have a trailerable center console come hurricane season.
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