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Old 07-28-2015, 05:42 PM
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S&S Alternatives

My wife wants a boat with an open bow... I may have to give in at some point, so I'm doing some preliminary research. Can anyone think of a boat that meets these reqs?

(In order of importance)
1 - $10,000 max
2 - Open bow
3 - Slalom wake is at least as good as my S&S
4 - More freeboard than my S&S
5 - Big 3 manufacturer
6 - Better rough water ride than my S&S

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Old 07-28-2015, 05:50 PM
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Early year 205s (up to and including '95). They still ride like bricks in the chop lol, but probably better than the S&S in that regard.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:51 PM
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Keep an eye out for a sportstar/ prostar 195. Not sure you will find one under 10. But may find one that needs some tlc.

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Old 07-28-2015, 05:56 PM
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92-95 Prostar 205, Malibu Echelon LX. If climb over open bow is okay and you're lucky, you can add the Sportster LX and Response LX, and 97+ Ski Nautique Open Bow. If you're willing to look outside of the big 3, the Tige 2002 FSLM and Pre 2002 are supposed to have very small slalom wakes. Gekko GTO-22 and GTR-22 can be found cheap as well.

None of these boats will have higher freeboard than your S&S. The Gekkos will have a lower freeboard. The Gekkos will also have a better rough water ride, but probably a worse slalom wake. The Tige Pre 2002 with Taps may be able to somewhat compensate better in rough water than the other boats.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:44 AM
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There was a ProStar 205 in IN last month for $8500 with something like 500 hours on it. That would be the closest you could get IMO.

Here's a 97 for $12.5

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Old 07-29-2015, 09:16 AM
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You'll begin to see some better prices in about 3-4 weeks - don't forget cash in hand can get you a better price when you see a boat in person.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:19 AM
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Sport Nautique. This one is out of your price target, but shows what you can find:


If you are willing to go outside the big 3, then Supra has some true walk through open bows.


There are a few late Hydrodyne Grand Sports out there, too, that are nice.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:24 AM
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I'm guessing to get a wake as good you'd be pushing your price up a lot. The early 205's are pretty good and you'll be down in the boat much more than in the S&S. The rough water ride won't be great, but MUCH better than your S&S. A TriStar 190 will have a decent slalom wake, and deeper. The ride in chop is not a lot better, but you'll be down in the boat more as well. Might keep an eye out for a Sport Nautique as well. One of my buddies has a Supra Mariah. The wake lays down really nicely around 32-34 if you don't have it loaded down and with 3-4 people. That should be easily in your price range. That Conbrio looks clean, but not much extra space than your S&S and you're not any deeper in it.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:43 AM
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I completely agree with Tsumi and Rebel Skier. When I was looking the list was:
PS205 1st gen
Sport Nautique 93-up
Echelon LX
And some peripherals--Supra with composite construction, Tige, MB, etc.
Looked at a TriStar 190 open bow (didn't ride in it) and just couldn't pull the trigger.

We ended up in an ELX because it's what fell into our lap when we were just about to abandon the search. My brother and his wife claim it rides better than their '91 PS190, but it's still not great. Rode in a 205 and it seemed similar, never got the chance to test a Sport Nautique.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:59 AM
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A TriStar 190 will have a decent slalom wake, and deeper.
So true, but it is not a roomy boat. I sold my TriStar two years ago, picked up a '92 205, couldn't be happier.
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