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Old 05-21-2017, 11:13 AM
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Jeep Wrangler Unlimited advice

My wife and I are in the market for a new to us, preferably used wrangler unlimited. It will be her daily driver, of which it's just around town. This is not our tow vehicle, we have that covered with an avalanche.

What we are looking for is 2012 or newer with less than 60k. Power windows,locks,cruise and hard top. We will be adding a small lift and 35" tires. All for looks, likely only off-road will be during hunting season. I'll add a soft top for summer as during that time she will likely want the top and doors off.

Those of you that own them, can you give me some positive and negative input. Things to like the out for? What years are good or options that are good. I like rubicon's but not in my budget, looking towards a sport or Sahara.

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Old 05-21-2017, 11:18 AM
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How far commute? What are your expectations for comfort of ride? Quite a few Jeep owners here. Wife loved her 2DR wrangler as a daily driver. It was not lifted though. With the wrong tires and lift it could be a handful to daily drive
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:47 AM
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Do not put load range E tires on them. Mine was a commuter and I didn't even own it long enough for the temp tags to expire because of how miserable my rubicon on a 3.5 inch rubicon express lift and 35 inch trail traps rode. Even had fox shock. My stock 2 door rode great actually.
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:24 PM
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It's been a while since I shopped JKs so I'm going out from memory. My biggest concern would be the gear ratio if you are planning on running 35s. The rubi's come factory with 4.10 I'm not sure what is standard on a Sahara. My sister has a 2015 unlimited sahara and she has 3.73 iirc. She recently put on 35s. The factory size was 32". So far they seem to be happy with how it's working. This was more for show also. She has the 6 speed manual. I drove it once and I was really impressed with the anti roll back system. Any lower gear ratio and you will be miserable with the lack of power without a regear.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:12 PM
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I only have experience with the newer pentastar.

That being said all the jeep owners I have talked to say the pentastar is leaps and bounds better then the previous engine, especially fuel mileage.

Do not get 3.21 gears. They are TERRIBLE, especially is you get the automatic. It will hunt gears a alot. 3.73 gears are the gears to get for a blend of good fuel economy and power. I cant stress this one enough. 3.21's ruin the thing.

For a daily driver, I found that when I took automatics home, the NVH (noise vibration harshness) would bother me more. The 6 speed manual made the jeep more fun to drive so the NVH bothered me less. IF your wife cant drive manual than this is moot.

I hated the way short wheel base jeeps drove. Great for when your actually offroading, but on road the short wheel base sucks. Sucks in the snow and just generally not a good riding vehicle. If you ever want to tow, Do not even consider the short wheel base (And I think towing 10k with a 1/2 ton isnt a such a big deal as most people here lol).

Ok I just saw you want to add a lift and 35's. Dont even consider 3.21's. I think 3.73 might be ok with a manual. You are better off with 4.10s though.

Im assuming you are mall crawling with this?
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How far commute? What are your expectations for comfort of ride? Quite a few Jeep owners here. Wife loved her 2DR wrangler as a daily driver. It was not lifted though. With the wrong tires and lift it could be a handful to daily drive
Our commute to our business from our home is 5-7 mins. Otherwise just running around town or out to the lake house ~1 hr each way. A couple of 14hr round trip runs per summer, but no towing. We can always take the avalanche for those trips too. 2dr is not an option as this could be a kid getter in the future. We do not have kids yet. Comfort is subjective, my avalanche is a z71 on a 2.5 level and 33"load e tires. I rides rougher that most would like but does not bother us.
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I only have experience with the newer pentastar.

That being said all the jeep owners I have talked to say the pentastar is leaps and bounds better then the previous engine, especially fuel mileage.

Do not get 3.21 gears. They are TERRIBLE, especially is you get the automatic. It will hunt gears a alot. 3.73 gears are the gears to get for a blend of good fuel economy and power. I cant stress this one enough. 3.21's ruin the thing.

For a daily driver, I found that when I took automatics home, the NVH (noise vibration harshness) would bother me more. The 6 speed manual made the jeep more fun to drive so the NVH bothered me less. IF your wife cant drive manual than this is moot.

I hated the way short wheel base jeeps drove. Great for when your actually offroading, but on road the short wheel base sucks. Sucks in the snow and just generally not a good riding vehicle. If you ever want to tow, Do not even consider the short wheel base (And I think towing 10k with a 1/2 ton isnt a such a big deal as most people here lol).

Ok I just saw you want to add a lift and 35's. Dont even consider 3.21's. I think 3.73 might be ok with a manual. You are better off with 4.10s though.

Im assuming you are mall crawling with this?

Yep call us out, she does not shop at the mall but yes it's not going to be out on trails flexing out. Automatic is a must for her, good point on the 3.73 gears. That will be a must now. As for the 35" I'll look for options closer in size in a p-metric so that it's not bothersome to drive as much.
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:03 PM
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I wanted to pull my hair out on my 10 mile commute. I couldn't even imagine road tripping in a lifted JKU. Mine rode rougher than my f150 on a 7 inch lift.
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:42 PM
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Honestly, it's a jeep it's not gonna ride great.

Run a small lift. 35s and proper air pressure and it'll be ok. My uncles jk unlimited is 3.5" and 37s on 17s.. rides and drives like stock..

It's been on numberous 2000 mile road trips to Colorado and back
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:09 PM
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Great vehicle! I live in the northeast and was happy I had the hard top for winter and soft top for the remainder of the year. If you are going to lift it I strongly recommend a suspension lift over some of these "budget boosts" that are out there. I made that mistake and regretted it quickly as the ride suffered dramatically. Best of luck!
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