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Old 03-25-2014, 10:35 AM
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So far the reviews of these EcoDiesels are very positive on how they tow and drive. The hp number is really no concern and the Torque is big and comes on almost immediately.
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:42 PM
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I normally hate dodge myself, but I like the direction the 1500 diesel is going. Might have to swing by and test drive one when they're more available.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:51 PM
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I'm pricing it out now, a few notes from the dealer (good friend)... If you're in really cold weather (-25F) there have been problems with the air suspension freezing up. I'm going to go coils no air ride. He also said go with the 392 rear end.

I may order one this week, says it will be June by the time it gets here. Lots of promos on right now, even on that truck...

Not a done deal but definitely not far off either.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:10 PM
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Be careful then, the DEF fluid also freezes and renders the truck useless regardless of brand of vehicle.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:14 PM
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Be careful then, the DEF fluid also freezes and renders the truck useless regardless of brand of vehicle.
yep, I took my touareg tdi in 2 weekends ago to get the oil changed and there was another 2012 tourareg in the back. asked my service advisor why it was back there and she said that the diesel jelled up during out last really bad cold snap. I asked her what can I do to prevent this and she said vw sells a additive to add to the diesel. weird thing is I have kept mine overnight a few times at winter park with sub zero with no issues.

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:04 AM
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yep, when the diesel jells, you are dead in the water. I would suspect in colder areas, diesel would have a certain amount of de-jelling agent added or higher grade available for the lower temperatures.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:21 PM
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Heck with the HP number, the torque figure is what you need to know with a diesel.

The other thing to consider is fuel milage while towing, the ecoboost looks awesome until you realize it is burning the same fuel a v8 gas engine while pulling a load. I imagine the Fiaodge fuel milage won't change too much. The cummins 6cyl in the 2500 gets the same milage until you really start working the engine to get over big hills and hauling heavy loads.

Not sure I'd want to be a first year guinea pig, but I've heard that Chrysler has really improved fit finish and reliability of their vehicles.

it's about time we got a 1/2 ton diesel. It's too bad diesel is a dollar more than low grade fuel.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:27 PM
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Well... The powertrain will have been in the Jeep Grand Cherokee's for 18 months, and I've been following them. Really no issues. The 8 speed is used across the board now, and the VM Motori engine is really a damned fine piece of engineering. I came close to pulling the trigger on a new JGC (Jeep Grand Cherokee) with the 3.0 diesel. The only reason I didn't was it just wasn't peppy enough for me. I too, drive a lot of miles, and the current rig is an 01 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel. I fetch about 17 in town, 20 on the highway, and 16mpg with the boat behind it, and 11.5mpg with the big trailer and Jeep and loaded down.

I imagine the new 1500 diesel will do all I want, but it's not the swiftest thing out there. Most folks won't care - it's certainly got the torque to haul whatever you want up any grade at any speed, I'm just used to a bit more oomph from my truck (modified).

All the new Chrysler/Ram/Dodge stuff is actually really well designed. I am worried that they screwed up by giving the V8 Cummins to the competition though. We'll see what happens in the next 5 years :-)
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:14 PM
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Just my opinion but:

Diesels are for commercial haulers that log 30K miles per year to reap the benefits.
Import diesel engines can be expensive to repair. I have a Mercedes engine in my 2005 Freightliner M2 and parts are far from cheap. This includes filters too. EGR valve was over $900 and the EGR cooler is over $1400. Starter $300....you get the idea.

In colder climates, diesel can gel up and air lines can freeze up. You have to plug in your block heater every night too.

DEF fluid, just another thing to keep an eye on.
Diesel fuel, not every station carries it around here.

I have 20K miles on my Ford Eco-boost. It's as quiet as any car I've ever had much less any truck. The torque is great for towing, much better than any of my gas engines including a 6.2 Denali. 18-19 highway, 15-16 around home and 10-11 towing the X-star. But it burns regular gas that's 60-80 cents cheaper than diesel.

It's such a turn-key operation owning this truck......nothing to do but put gas in it!
And there are cold air intakes and aftermarket exhaust available that add 20-30 more hp.
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