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Old 10-03-2013, 01:27 AM
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'02 Xstar wake comparison vs '11 X1

So the classic 205v hull, the same, besides little changes like the tower and other options. With that being said, is a 2002 Xstar wake exactly (when weighted exactly the same) as say, a 2005 X2 or a 2008 X1, to a 2011 X1? I know the available engine options changed over the years, but what would the advantage be in buying a 2011 X1 vs a 2002 Xstar or 2004 X2? Aren't the hull and seating arrangement, etc basically the same?
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:43 AM
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Plenty of information here regarding these hulls, short answer / hull is the same/seating the same. Difference between buying a 2002 - versus 2006-2011? Well..... obviously hours/years/etc.... the big difference is 1999 no wrap around seating & 1 piece rear area.... 2000 with wrap seating & 1 piece rear area..... and 2001 with wrap seating & 3 piece rear area.... find a 01 to 05 - 205V or Xstar or 2003-2005 X2 - or a 2006-2010 X1/205V - all the same... give or take years and model years.... MC and their naming between the early Xstars, X2's, & X1's is confusing...
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:11 AM
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All the same wake characteristics only difference is whats in the boat
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:35 AM
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03 starts the MCX run, 05+ get swivel racks.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:12 AM
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05 got drive by wire, too, IIRC.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:53 AM
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(are the wakes exactly the same) actually no they aren't exactly the same which is weird when it comes to the wake cause it's the same hull.

The hull is the same, however the rudders are different on the older 205v hulls. It's weird but it changes the wake just slightly. My buddy still has a 2000 xstar (205v) and the wake was slightly different then my 2005 x-2 (205v). One other thing that changed was the tower obviously. The 2000 star vs the 2001-2004 205v vs the 2005-2009, the tower tow point was in different spots. So if you rode with a 75 foot line the wake would be different because you would be hitting different areas of the wake. I know it sounds strange but 3-4 feet makes a difference in the wake and speed you need to go sometimes.

Overall, yes wakes are very similar but if you ride behind these different years on a regular basis you needed to change line lengths, weight ect ect to maintain the exact same wake that you would be used to....

If you're just looking at buying one of these different years and are wondering if they are pretty much the same, the answer is yes. But there are some subtle differences...

Boat wise, 2000 205vs only had the front sac plumbed in for standard ballast. Crappy tower that cracks.

2001-2004 205v had the three ballast tanks, the pumps kind of sucked though as you had to back up to prime the pumps. Not very fast to fill.

2005 205v changed pumps and pickup so they filled pretty fast, tower not very sturdy though, started the throttle by wire. Swivel racks. ( i had this year and loved the boat)

2006-2007 x-1, went as a budget boat, so most of these years are stripped down a bit. NOt as much bling as the 2005

2008 onward x-1, slightly different towers I believe except beefier back legs on the tower so you didn't get quite the side to side sway...
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:03 AM
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I think the ballast pump change was in 2002. My 2003 has reversible pumps.
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:23 AM
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Thanks fellas! That's exactly the info I was searching for (and yes I have read like a 1000 threads in the 205v hull etc) just couldn't find a breakdown of the subtle differences between the years besides the obvious tower.....I have narrowed my boat search down to the xstar/x2/205v for the classic and ever popular hull/wake....It is in my budget, I/we mainly wakeboard, and I know that it can surf, although not spectacular...fits the bill...now to find one. The Tristar is just too small, its a ski boat (don't ski), and don't want a bunch of water balloons taking up limited space to improve the wake...
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:19 PM
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At some point after the '99 205v, they raised the level of the swim platform by about 5 or 6 inches. When my '99 205v is weighted down (2 750s in the rear, 350 ski locker sac and another 750 in the bow) my platform sits about a foot underwater. I don't think it's effecting the wake much, but it may be a little. JR's '03 X2 has the higher platform and his wake is slightly different than mine. His wake has more peak and gives a little more vertical pop. Although he runs more weight in the bow than I do so that might be part of the reason.
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:54 PM
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Thanks fellas! That's exactly the info I was searching for (and yes I have read like a 1000 threads in the 205v hull etc) just couldn't find a breakdown of the subtle differences between the years besides the obvious tower.....I have narrowed my boat search down to the xstar/x2/205v for the classic and ever popular hull/wake....It is in my budget, I/we mainly wakeboard, and I know that it can surf, although not spectacular...fits the bill...now to find one. The Tristar is just too small, its a ski boat (don't ski), and don't want a bunch of water balloons taking up limited space to improve the wake...
You're a man after my own heart. You can never go wrong with the 205v hull. Take your time, be patient, and you'll find just what you want.
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