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Old 02-06-2014, 02:25 PM
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thank you everyone for the input. i guess that is why they are illegal in a few states.
I really don't think the illegality of a product is a measure of its worth ??

Firearms ? drugs ? alcohol ? certain insecticides ? light bulbs ?


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Old 02-06-2014, 04:27 PM
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IF you leave a flue open, it's no longer ventless
The logs themselves are ventless and put out more heat. But we are venting them (slightly).
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:23 PM
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The logs themselves are ventless and put out more heat. But we are venting them (slightly).
I talked my 80 year old neighbor into getting the unvented gas logs for her house and after she used them she called me up raising hell about how worthless they were (and I even haul her 100lb tank for her). She had the flue wide open and the logs wouldn't even heat her living room. When I shut the flue for her, she said that her brother told her that the fireplace would explode if the flue was closed.
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:47 PM
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I must admit, the subject is a little touchy for me.

A good friend in college, died from carbon monoxide poisoning. In his case, a ventless dearborn gas heater. He had cracked his bedroom window, but closed his door.

Buildings still need proper ventilation!

I recommend a quality carbon monoxide monitor (not a alarm) that registers below 10 ppm. UL registered alarms, go off at 30 ppm and generally don't alarm below 30 ppm. (Unless standards have changed in the last 5 years.)

Note: firemen put on breathing-gear at 28 ppm(iirc). No level of CO is safe.

Just because they're sold, doesn't mean, they're safe. They must be installed correctly. Just like ladders...big part of the price is liability insurance, for the mfg of the product...not the seller or installer.

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Old 02-06-2014, 06:08 PM
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CO detector and fire dept inspection required for them here in MA in conjunction with gas permit.
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