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Old 07-13-2015, 07:34 PM
StrmChzr StrmChzr is offline
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SNAFU trailer

I have an 05 XStar on a galvanized Reliable trailer. Couple months ago I was pulling boat on trailer to lake (about 10 miles away) and bearing on rear passenger wheel of trailer went bad. The oil bath window on wheel blew out about 5 miles from the boat launch, so I pulled over for 20 minutes to let cool before limping it rest of way to boat launch as slowly as possible.

I took the trailer to large trailer service and sales company in Kansas City for repair. Was expecting new bearings and maybe hub replacement, but was told the spindle needs replaced and that means having a custom Dexter axle built to replace the Reliable one that's now defunct. This going to cost me a couple grand at a minimum and take month to build, so I'm considering all my options before making a decision how to proceed...

Anybody have similar bearing failure w/ Reliable trailer's oil bath lube system that resulted in trailer axle needing replaced? I've trailered my XStar a couple thousand miles in past few years and never had any issues, so not sure if trailer is trustworthy if repaired or if it's junk and should be replaced entirely. If I replaced trailer, who builds trailers for Mastercraft now and is this my only and best option for trailer?

Any idea if my 05 XStar would fit on 08 X45 trailer? I have a friend who might be willing to loan me his 45's trailer for our Table Rock trip in week and half but don't know if it's as simple as just pulling my XStar onto his trailer when round trip is 500 miles...
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:08 PM
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Couple grand for a new axle? I highly doubt that. You can get a brand new custom trailer for your boat for about 3-5k, depending on options you choose and whatnot.

Mastercraft builds their trailers in house. They are one of the few companies that do, though dealers can opt to go with a custom manufacturer for lower costs. Others outsource to custom trailer manufacturers, one popular one being Extreme trailers. There are several custom trailer manufacturers out there, contact a few of them and see what they can offer you. A closer one physically to you can go out and get measurements of your boat/trailer.

As for the X45 trailer, I doubt it will work. The boats have fundamentally different hulls. The X-Star is a flat bottom, the X45 is a semi-V.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:30 PM
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any tandem axle trailer for the XStar will cost at least 5k
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:39 PM
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Did you take it to Croft? I think those spindles are only about 60$ each?? Plus labor to replace.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:26 PM
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My 2 cents - get a second opinion

I also had a oil bath go bad. Still cost a mint but at least I didn't need anything new fabricated.

Here is my saga: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=60025

I'm certainly no expert but I am happy to answer any questions. Since the "caugh" investment, it has been trouble free.

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Old 07-14-2015, 01:59 AM
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Neil - Yes, the trailer experts I'm referring to is Croft in Olathe and (unfortunately) I don't think they were trying to screw me out of a good trailer.... I think they look at my trailer situation and think "one big PIA"! The spindle is part of the axle which they said will require an entire new axle be made by axle specialist Dexter since Reliable is no more. The spindle has a few rough spots on it that they said will affect the hub and isn't something that can be repaired only replaced.
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:32 AM
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Call ski n sports, see if they have a trailer ??
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Old 07-14-2015, 10:14 AM
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Hmmm... The spindle doesn't look that bad, not in the photo anyway. But pictures do lie sometimes. If it were me i would at least try to clean it up with some emery cloth and new bearings. Was the fluid ever changed in the hubs?


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Old 07-15-2015, 11:46 PM
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Neil - That was my next thought as well. Holding off calling Dave for now, but still might be making that call in next few days. Went back to Croft Trailer this afternoon and had another one of their guys check out trailer. He agreed the spindle is shot and has enough wear that it'll just burn through whatever bearing I put on there. He recommended Harrison Welding be consulted to cut the spindle off and weld a replacement on the torsion axle. Soooo, we gonna try that and see if that works before I start trailer shopping.

Logan - The spindle isn't visibly damaged but if you feel it, there's slight grooves etched in it that both trailer experts I've talked to tell me it's ruined. They both agree that if I try smoothing these etched markings on spindle, there will be enough play between the bearing and spindle that it'll fail within short period of time. I have owned the trailer for 3 years now and, no, I have never changed the oil in hubs. Not sure how often oil is suppose to be changed but sure wish I would've if all this could've been prevented....
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:01 AM
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They should be able to repair. What is the welder in Stilwell? Linder's? If Harrison doesn't work out. Let me know and I'll talk with some of my old Deere techs for a quality guy.
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