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Old 10-21-2013, 12:40 PM
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:07 AM
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:03 AM
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I noticed a debit of the same sort. And when I inquired they said it was the government and that it would be returned shortly. It did go back in the next day. Mine was $0.27 from my business account.

JimN I don't think you are paranoid. This was a test. To just take your money if you do not comply with healthcare laws. Business' that is. Since i don't have above 50 employees and never will I'm not too worried but it makes me wonder if they can do it to my business they sure can do it to regular people.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:17 AM
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I noticed a debit of the same sort. And when I inquired they said it was the government and that it would be returned shortly. It did go back in the next day. Mine was $0.27 from my business account.

JimN I don't think you are paranoid. This was a test. To just take your money if you do not comply with healthcare laws. Business' that is. Since i don't have above 50 employees and never will I'm not too worried but it makes me wonder if they can do it to my business they sure can do it to regular people.
If it was such a good health care plan, they wouldn't require all of us to enroll and be subject to penalties if we don't. I haven't seen any proof that costs will decrease and yesterday, in a rare occasion when I had a local talk radio show on (I normally don't listen to ANY talk radio), an insurance agency owner called and said his own rates for health insurance had increased by about $250/month. His health and the health of his family hasn't changed, yet he's now paying $3000 more, per year.

If they had required people to stop engaging in risky behavior, bad diet and no exercise, it might not be so bad but when people continue to eat mostly junk/fast food, sit on their butt and drink/drug their way through life but still get free health care, we need to step up and say "NO MORE!" to the government.

WRT government not being required to use the same plans, they are-

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...-marketplaces/
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:24 AM
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If it was such a good health care plan, they wouldn't require all of us to enroll and be subject to penalties if we don't. I haven't seen any proof that costs will decrease and yesterday, in a rare occasion when I had a local talk radio show on (I normally don't listen to ANY talk radio), an insurance agency owner called and said his own rates for health insurance had increased by about $250/month. His health and the health of his family hasn't changed, yet he's now paying $3000 more, per year.

If they had required people to stop engaging in risky behavior, bad diet and no exercise, it might not be so bad but when people continue to eat mostly junk/fast food, sit on their butt and drink/drug their way through life but still get free health care, we need to step up and say "NO MORE!" to the government.
Has anyone heard of "good success stories" of the new Health Care System?!? Me, I've not heard anything positive. Costing our company an extra $4.2MM dollars for the ACA. Deductables went up (before $250-now $500), coverage down (max out of pocket befor $9600, now $19200). Emergency room (before - $150, now - 20%.....huge!)
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:38 AM
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My wifes plan through IL BCBS went down $35 and no changes but emergency 20% used to be $150. Mine went up from $250/mo to $425 for same plan I had. Plus the still screw us on emergency. I think all the plans are that way.

Havent made any changes yet. Still waiting to sit down and talk to someone

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Old 10-22-2013, 11:30 AM
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We have a family catastrophic plan with Group Health. Was $495 per month. Got notified that the new "comparable" plan will be $845. There are more benefits but i don't want more benefits. Apparently the government thought that was not enough insurance. I can still gat the catastrophic plan but the cost is around $825. Isn't this America Jack?!?!
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Old 10-22-2013, 12:08 PM
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I noticed a debit of the same sort. And when I inquired they said it was the government and that it would be returned shortly. It did go back in the next day. Mine was $0.27 from my business account.

JimN I don't think you are paranoid. This was a test. To just take your money if you do not comply with healthcare laws. Business' that is. Since i don't have above 50 employees and never will I'm not too worried but it makes me wonder if they can do it to my business they sure can do it to regular people.


Folks this is just the beginning. When the government has direct access to your financial accounts the government will be able to steal your money for any reason.

Wake UP America!!!
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:27 PM
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Anyone found a source verifying the government's access to bank accounts?
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:17 AM
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This was emailed to me today. I don't know how accurate the source is but its still a interesting read.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfrez...-confiscation/
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