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Old 09-06-2014, 03:34 AM
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2012 x25 prop effect on wake x30?

This may be a stupid question, and probably is. We have a 2012 x25, before we used the boat we changed to a maximum take off prop as top end is of no concern. I ride quite a lot and have friends that ride a bit as well (intermediate through to advanced), my question is we cannot get the wake clean, have tried weight in front back even and will not clean up. Could the prop be the issue? anything i have not thought of? it has lead us to wanting to sell our x25 and buy an x30, what do you think about this decision? thank you!
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Old 09-06-2014, 08:25 AM
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Seems really strange? I've ridden a couple now most recently a 2014 loaded with stock and rear gen 2 bags full plus a 750 bag full in bow. I'll tell you at my preferred speed 22.4mph I had to ride at 65' which I don't normally do. To ride at 70' needed to bump up to 23 to get nice clean wake. The 25 is a wide wake and will tend to curl the further u drop back on the line if your not going days enough. But if you get it dialed in correct it's a super fun very poppy wake!

I've heard stories on the forums that the attitude plates can screw up the wake or maybe or trim tabs are partially deploying and u don't realize it. That would be the first think I check. Also are u completely sure your ballast is filling evenly ?


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Old 09-06-2014, 08:50 AM
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great thanks for the reply! we will suss out the trim tab (no surf tabs)! we have tried empty ballast, like when the boat is out of the water make sure they are empty and then when we fill we make sure all 3 tanks are over flowing, we have found that the majority of the weight in the back 70-30 seems to clean it up the best however often the riders left wake will never clean up no matter how much/where we put weight any ideas on this?

That is pretty much exactly what i ride and its super poppy i ride 67.5-72.5 at 22.5-23 but the wake is only just clean so when beginners ride and they slow down that little bit even down to 21 the wake just washes over, just wanted to know if its a problem with this particular boat that im overloooking or if thats just how difficult the wake is to get perfect, thanks!
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:21 AM
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I have owned two X25s and have found when you slow down weight placement in the boat becomes more crucial. We sometimes have to move people around to help clean up, but you can run a clean wake down to 17 mph with the right weight placement and a little help from the wake plate.
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:55 AM
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I haven't had the privilege of spending a lot of time on an X25 but if you want a clean wake at all speeds and weights an X30 is in it's element. You can weight the X30 with 2500lbs+ and get a clean wake all the way down to 20. It's a more mellow wake than an X25, so it has less vertical pop but is more consistent, and can really be loaded up. Above 23.5 though, the wake starts to suffer. I ride at 70/22.5 and it's GOLD.

I have only heard awesome things about the 25 wake. Maybe post up some pics? We are assuming GPS speed control so your speeds are accurate.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:49 PM
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I have seen you say nothing but good things about the x30 wake and thinking that its the right choice for us, could you please link me to where i can find your videos of the wake?

yes it is gps (checked with phones as well) but really we all have ridden alot and we know that we are going fast enough, i will see if i can track down some photos!
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:11 PM
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where did you find a rope with 2.5 ft segments???? lol dont know what ballast youre running, but you might need to speed up, and reconsider weight placement as noted above. Heck you guys ride slow, we ride at 25.2 lol
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Old 09-07-2014, 12:53 AM
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2.5 ft rope sections are not all that uncommon. Also, there's something very wrong if you're riding at 25 mph. Check it with a gps
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:34 AM
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Ya, 25.2 is fast. Too fast for me.

Hi Shavo9, here are a few pics of the wake and a link to a video of us riding it weighted, don't judge the riding, we are old guys, but you can see the size of the wake. The X30 wake is a smooth transition. It's also a little wider of a wake. I ride it between 65' and 70'.

First pics is stock at 21.
Rest are loaded with between 3-4k, about 22.2-22.6

Video Link: https://vimeo.com/77149379
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:03 AM
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I have owned two X25s and have found when you slow down weight placement in the boat becomes more crucial. We sometimes have to move people around to help clean up, but you can run a clean wake down to 17 mph with the right weight placement and a little help from the wake plate.
It would be great if you could send some photos of your wake at those speeds and what weight placement do you have? We have tried the following list (in kilograms due to im being from Australia so multiply it all by 2.2)

-stock alone
-stock plus 250kg in each rear compartment 250 in bow walkway
-same but with an extra 150kg under the bow seats
-stock plus 250 in each rear compartment nothing else (boat really struggled to get going)

-stock plus 250 in each rear compartment plus 150kg in walkway which surprisingly has been our best set up but i mean the wake is still extremely vertical and the wake on the riders left can still be a bit tough to clean up so hearing your setups would be great!
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