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Old 11-10-2013, 07:58 AM
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Those of you with F150's

I'm looking at getting a new vehicle, and the F150 is a high contender on my list. I want the FX4 model for the heavier duty suspension (is this right?). I'm trying to stay under $25k and looking to get into as few miles as possible with the newest model I can find.

Question is, for those of you who have had an 04-08 model, and also an 09+ model, did you notice a big difference going from the 4 speed to the 6 speed auto? I'd really like an 09+, I just have to find a deal to stay in my budget and not have 100k+ miles on the thing. It's ridiculous how well these trucks hold their value right now.

Right now I'm looking at an 08 FX4 with 56k miles on it, or an 09 Lariat with 65k miles on it. The 08 is asking $20k, I'd probably offer 18k. The 09 is asking $25K (which is a great price), but I'd still probably try to knock a little off that and offer $23k. Is the 09 worth the extra 5-7 grand even with the extra mileage? I know the Lariat is a higher trim, and it's the refreshed model which is why I'm asking. Any opinions/suggestions?
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:43 AM
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'09 is the newer style right? If it has the 5.0 with 6 speed instead of the 5.4 with 4 speed I'd look into that one.....worth the extra coin for sure. The 5.0 tows great and gets good mpg from what I've read.

'08 and older style didn't look as nice (to me)....resale will drop faster than the new style IMHO.

Make sure you look at what gear ratio both have (for towing) 3.55 or higher would be best.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:04 AM
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'09 is the newer style right? If it has the 5.0 with 6 speed instead of the 5.4 with 4 speed I'd look into that one.....worth the extra coin for sure. The 5.0 tows great and gets good mpg from what I've read.

'08 and older style didn't look as nice (to me)....resale will drop faster than the new style IMHO.

Make sure you look at what gear ratio both have (for towing) 3.55 or higher would be best.
09 still had the 5.4L in it, they just switched to the 6-speed. I think the 5.0 debuted in 2011 or thereabouts.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:07 AM
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I can't help you with much but why buy a used truck when you can get a new one for 12-13k off of sticker, get new car financing vs. used car rates? Fairway Ford out by me has all of their remaining '13 models priced like this. Just a thought. You're a good 10-12 hours from me but what better way to break in a new truck?
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:56 AM
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I currently have a '13 F150 with the 3.5 V6 and 6 speed. It's the best towing truck I ever owner!!!! Probably the most important feature you should look for is the towing mirrors which are by far the best mirrors available, after that you'll want the 3.73 gears in the towing package.

I don't know if the FX4 package gives you higher rate rear springs, but with a properly set up trailer you aren't looking at much tongue weight anyway.

Over the years between work and personal use I've driven the following trucks on daily basis and this F150 is hands down the easiest. '96 F250, '01 F250, '04 F350, '06 Chevy 1500, '13 Chevy 1500 & '13 F150. Between the mirrors, the awesome 6 speed auto with gear selection, the backup camera, and the towing package this truck makes it an absolute pleasure to tow.

You may want to consider a left over '13 just to get the better mpg of he the V6 and the 6 speed auto.
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:03 PM
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The 5.4L has a couple of notorious issues with them that you might want to verify if possible. Spark plugs like to blow right out of the heads on them. Also replacing spark plugs are next to impossible. Trying to change them you will end up braking at least 2 of the 8. Which then means you have to pull the heads to get the broken plugs out. The other issue with the 5.4 is the rear most exhaust manifold bolt will corrode and then break causing an exhaust manifold leak. In order to fix it you need to lower the engine off the two rear engine mounts to get the exhaust manifolds changed. From what I understand it is about a $3000 repair on the engine.

The spark plug exploded out of my 2002 F150 with about 70,000 miles on it. My 2006 had the exhaust manifold bolt break at about 90,000 miles. Luckily for me my buddy is a Ford mechanic so I only had to pay him the parts ($700) and the labor was paid for with Jack Daniels.

If you can get a 6 speed they are better transmissions than the 4 speeds are. Well worth finding a 6 speed over the 4 speed. The 6 speed transmissions are bullet proof. My 2006 busted a snap ring in the transmission 2 days after I sold it. One little snap ring required an entire tranny rebuild.

Make sure you get a truck with a 3.73 rear end in it, especially if you plan on towing. My 2006 had a 3.55 and it had to down shift to go up gradual grades on the interstate. Typically the 3.55 rear end came with the 20" wheel option.

If you can find a truck with a 5.0 L vs a 5.4L you will be better off. The 5.0 gets better gas mileage. If I set the cruise at 72 mph I can get 17.5-18.0 mpg with my 2012 with the 5.0. If you knock it down to 68 you will get around 19 mpg. The 5.4 could never get over 15.5 mpg. If I am in the 55-60 mph range I will get over 20 mpg.

You can get an FX4 setup almost the same as a Lariat. My 2006 and 2012 are FX4s and I think they were nicer inside than the Lariat. The main difference is that the leather interior and all the gadgets are included in the Lariat and you have to add them as options on the FX4. The thing I don't like about the Lariat is the fake would trim they use in the cab.

Good Luck on your search.

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Old 11-11-2013, 08:37 PM
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For the $25K range, you should be able to find a nice 2011 with a 5.0 and less than 40K miles. You can in Tampa, FL anyway.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:39 PM
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x2. the 5.4 with the 4 speed would be sluggish. look for an 2011. my 2011 5.0 would have sold for 26 or so but no 4x4 with 30k
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The 5.4L has a couple of notorious issues with them that you might want to verify if possible. Spark plugs like to blow right out of the heads on them. Also replacing spark plugs are next to impossible. Trying to change them you will end up braking at least 2 of the 8. Which then means you have to pull the heads to get the broken plugs out.
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They make a tool kit for removing the broken plugs. Most auto parts stores have them, ranging from 80 to 100 bucks. My son has the Triton 5.4 and freaked out when he broke several of the plugs. Got the kit at Oreilly's and got the plugs out in no time. If he can do it, anyone can!
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The 5.4 in the 07 and beyond fixed the issues from what I understand.
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