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Old 11-06-2013, 10:09 AM
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Amsoil Oil Filters-they are definately not the same

I decided this year while winterizing that I would switch over to Amsoil. I have friends that have been using it for years and swear by it. I did my research and quite honestly I have found that they're are people that use it exclusively and love it and others that seem to feel that its just as good as other synthetics such as Valvoline VR1......no bad reviews however, which is unusual. My question is that I bought the oil filter as well and when I received it it was 2/3 the size, both in diameter and depth. My boat is a 98 30th anniversary edition with the 350 horse Corvette LT1. I ordered the filter that Amsoil specified for the car. Is the boat motor different than the car in the oil filter size respect? I was using the Napa Platinum 41060. Maybe Im misguided in my thinking as well, but the size of the amsoil filter is the size of the filter that my lady is running in her scion, I cant imagine a Corvette running a filter that small. Thanks in advance for any light that you can shine on this subject-Eric
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:30 AM
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I decided this year while winterizing that I would switch over to Amsoil. I have friends that have been using it for years and swear by it. I did my research and quite honestly I have found that they're are people that use it exclusively and love it and others that seem to feel that its just as good as other synthetics such as Valvoline VR1......no bad reviews however, which is unusual. My question is that I bought the oil filter as well and when I received it it was 2/3 the size, both in diameter and depth. My boat is a 98 30th anniversary edition with the 350 horse Corvette LT1. I ordered the filter that Amsoil specified for the car. Is the boat motor different than the car in the oil filter size respect? I was using the Napa Platinum 41060. Maybe Im misguided in my thinking as well, but the size of the amsoil filter is the size of the filter that my lady is running in her scion, I cant imagine a Corvette running a filter that small. Thanks in advance for any light that you can shine on this subject-Eric
Engine is same - however, marine engines usually run higher RPM's. I would not use a small filter.. I used to run Napa Gold 1069 - but decided to change to Napa Platinum 41060 - just to feed my MCOCD. It's all about filter surface area and flow.

Besides the Indmar manual calls out anything that x-refs the Napa 1069 - I just can't bring myself to call out the orange filter's name...
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:38 AM
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The oil filter for a 2000 Corvette is the same as a 2000 S10 or Cavalier. They are small.

For Oil in my boat I use Mercury Synthetic. And the Napa filter. Now for my snowmobiles. AmsOil is the only thing I will EVER run.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:09 AM
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Real estate is tight under the hood of a vet.. it's very likely to run a small filter. Also on tight yet high performance applications like that it's not uncommon to punt an oil cooler and end up with higher operating temperatures.. which is what contributes to a factory requirement of running synthetic...

Or something like that anyway. so I was told a long time ago by a someone that was working with this stuff. Foggy memory a long time ago conversation over a drink. Take it with a grain of salt but seems reasonable.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:49 AM
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In regards to our LT-1 engines, I think we are better off referring to them as '96 Z-28s when we are looking for parts. If you ask for engine parts for a '98 Corvette (since your boat is a '98 and the engine says "Corvette", you will be getting parts for an LS1 engine. '97 Z-28s and TransAms were the last GM applications of our LT-1 engines. From what I can tell, the Corvette LT-1s always had different oil filters than our Indmars need. The filters were smaller in diameter as well as shorter.
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:55 PM
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Small block Chevys depending on model use the long or short version. Most trucks used the long (except some with 4wd). Had to do with clearance. I always run the long version as more filter area. Heck, there used to be one that was used with the engine in commercial applications that was twice the length! Haven't seen one of those in years though so probably discontinued.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:13 PM
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In regards to our LT-1 engines, I think we are better off referring to them as '96 Z-28s when we are looking for parts. If you ask for engine parts for a '98 Corvette (since your boat is a '98 and the engine says "Corvette", you will be getting parts for an LS1 engine. '97 Z-28s and TransAms were the last GM applications of our LT-1 engines. From what I can tell, the Corvette LT-1s always had different oil filters than our Indmars need. The filters were smaller in diameter as well as shorter.
That makes sense, so in essence I need to put a filter on for a 1997 LT1. That makes sense. The filter is quite a bit smaller in diameter as well, so I cannot see it fitting the boat. The boat is in storage now but am going over tomorrow to look up the numbers cast on the block. your explanation totally makes sense to me. Thank you
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:19 PM
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From oil to filters I believe you should always follow the OE recommmendations. Aftermarket oil companies spend the majority of their time and money on marketing, not engineering. When you have to put your brand and warranty dollars behind the product, OE don't take these recommendations lightly.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:22 PM
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Not sure about the filters.. but the oil has no equal... When I switched to amsoil in my 20+ year old motorcycles.. each motorcycle had an extremely noticeable difference in smoothness and cold weather starts....The boat seemed to like the oil change too.

I use to run full Valvoline synthetic.... when I switched to amsoil.. it was night and day difference. Case closed as far as I'm concerned..
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:36 PM
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Heck, there used to be one that was used with the engine in commercial applications that was twice the length! Haven't seen one of those in years though so probably discontinued.
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That makes sense, so in essence I need to put a filter on for a 1997 LT1. That makes sense. The filter is quite a bit smaller in diameter as well, so I cannot see it fitting the boat. The boat is in storage now but am going over tomorrow to look up the numbers cast on the block. your explanation totally makes sense to me. Thank you
Yes, and when looking for a 97 LT-1 you would use the Z28 or Trans Am for reference. Our LT-1s use a filter with an outside diameter of 3.66 inches and has 13/16-16 threads which is the same as the Z/28-TA. If you use a '93 Corvette LT-1 for lookup, you get an oil filter with an outside diameter of 2.921 and 18X1.5 MM metric threads.

http://wixfilters.com/Lookup/filterlookup.aspx
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