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Old 10-08-2013, 08:47 PM
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Yeah, but if you had bigger, you wouldn't regret having it...
scott, agree but not everyone has the extra $$$$ to spend. I run around 2800lbs in my x2 with the horrible rtp and have no issues getting on plane.
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:30 PM
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scott, agree but not everyone has the extra $$$$ to spend. I run around 2800lbs in my x2 with the horrible rtp and have no issues getting on plane.
I agree with you. Just saying no one complains that their motor has too much power.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:24 PM
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Oh don't get me wrong. If you don't mind spending the extra $$$ then go for it. You'll never regret it. I would rather use the money else where.
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:23 PM
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X-25 all the way. Better ride, better wake, better interior, better handling.
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:29 PM
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Also, keep in mind that the 6.2 is lighter than the 5.7 and the 6.0 but quite a bit (like 240lbs i think). So thats bonus ballast weight.
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:44 PM
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I've driven the X35 and was not impressed at all......supposedly it's getting a redesign in the next couple years, so hopefully it becomes a better boat at that point. I haven't been in an X25, but had an X30, 2014 230, and 2014 G23 on the water a couple days ago and after driving all three back to back I'm going with the X30.......just another option to think about. I love the pickle fork, but my wife is 5'9" and can't stretch her legs out in the bow of the X25 like she can in the X30. I know that's a little thing, but that's her spot in the boat, so I kinda gotta honor it.
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:14 PM
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How you like the G and the 230? I went looked at them last week but will be keeping my X25. G was nice but fit and finish were horrendous as were the ergonomics. Plus I'd have to spend 20K more and buy a diesel to tow it. The 230 was very shallow, had half the storage of my 25, and had the same fit finish issues and ergonomics of the G. All in all I felt I would be giving up too much just to get a surf system. Nice choice on the X30 must be MC'd best selling boat by now? My dealer says 50/50 for X25 and X30 sales but it seems like more people showing up on here with new X30's. Sounds like a ton of X10's and X46's moving as well.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:03 AM
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I really liked NSS, but that alone is not going to sway me. I also really liked the nau-teak flooring over the carpet in the Mastercraft.

I'm a car guy, so I kinda have to compare them to the cars I've driven lately, so here it goes. The Mastercraft felt more comfortable (think new Lexus GS350 Fsport - plenty quick and handled well, but still had a smooth ride), the 230 was the Corvette of the bunch (a little off on fit and finish, stiff ride, but out of the hole in no time and could almost spin it like a jet ski), The G23 to me was like a Porsche Cayenne (higher level of fit and finish than the 230, handled incredible well for its size, and with the 17" prop and 409 was every bit as quick as the X30 and 230 even with the extra weight)

Also, for 2014 they changed the platform on the X30 and maybe other Mastercraft models as well, but it narrows a significant amount to further aft you go on the platform, I noticed no disturbance on the face of the wave. The boat I was in didn't have the ballast for the surf package yet, but had everything else the surf package includes, tabs, attitude adjustment, etc. The wave was about thigh high and 15-20' long with a perfect curl at the end. I'm sure with the added ballast it would just get even better. The wakeboard wake with no weight in it at 17mph was clean and with the attitude plate you could soften or steepen it, which with an 18 month old son, the beginner wake on all three boats was an important part of my test. (I will say all three had clean wakes with no ballast at 17mph, but the 230 and G23 were a little more lippy than the X30).

I think when it was all said and done, yes the G had a massive surf wave and the wakeboard wake was unreal!!!!!! The 230 wasn't nearly as finicky as the previous model and also had a great wave. However, for me and my family, comfort and cruisability are high on our list of wants in a boat, and the X30 seemed to do well enough with the wakeboard wake and surf wave to have alot of fun for a day on the water, was extremely comfortable, had more than enough storage, and is quite frankly the boat we keep coming back to over our now 3 year search for the perfect boat. The other thing that helped sway my decision was the new Fusion radio.....I really like being able to control bow speakers, cockpit speakers, tower speakers, and sub individually from the helm without having to add a WS420 or similar device and stick it under the dash somewhere.

We also looked at the X10, but for us it was worth the $5K difference to jump to the X30. While I didn't put the X46 in the water, my salesman didn't feel I would be pleased with the quality of the wake behind it compared to the others and really, I didn't want to spend another $30K which is also the main reason why I ruled out the G23, and if I didn't care about ride quality going across a rough lake the decision between the 230 and X30 would've been more difficult than it was, but the lake we're on most of the time gets rough even in a 27' Sea Ray on holiday weekends so ride quality is important to us.
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:00 PM
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Great review, thanks Tommy.

Something to note is the boats were not weighted the same so you probably wouldn't get the same size wake/wave out of them. The G23 is about 5700lbs with 2850 lbs of ballast so comparing the surf or wakeboard wake to the 30 which is 4700lbs with 1000 ballast won't be on par. That is almost 3000lbs difference. The 30 really benefits from PnP ballast, basically a 750 in each rear locker. The wave and wake both get much much better.

Good luck on the 30, it is a great all around boat. I love mine.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:06 PM
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that's what I'm thinking.....they had one with the surf package and pro package that my wife and I like, but I'm a little hesitant about the 5.7.....also that boat got there about an hour before I did, so I didn't want them to unwrap it for it to sit if we didn't buy it.
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