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Old 09-10-2013, 09:32 PM
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Extra 12v outlets for ballast pump?

I finally bought some fly high ballast bags and a tsunami pump after years of riding with no weight in the boat.After using them the first time I'm wondering if I should hide some extra 12v outlets where I have the bags. Is that what most people do or do you just tell someone else to plug in and unplug? I'm thinking if I add some in the correct places I could just do it myself instead of filling bags being a two person job. Suggestions?
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:56 PM
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You mean like this. Did these this summer on my 07 X2.....
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:09 PM
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Yeah I'm thinking that would be the way to go.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:20 PM
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Or plumb them in.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:41 PM
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If I had a v drive I would definitely plumb 2 in the rear compartments but I move my bags around a lot in my dd
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:11 PM
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Actually I did look at doing that but I didn't like the overflow fill/drain solution. I don't think my tanks drain well now, thought it would just make things worse and didn't want to have to mess with new timers. I looked into the multi port selector valves they make (http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-d...-manifold.html) but after calling Wake Makers the guy on the phone talked me out of them. Thought about doing the selector valves again later in the season but by that time it was mid July and the project was too late to make the top 10 list of things to work on.

For me at least having the power close by was a good compromise. If you're going to use the storage back there you're always going to be moving gear from one locker to the other so it's never going to be hands free. With the power outlets installed at least it's one step closer to reasonable.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:15 PM
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... I looked into the multi port selector valves they make (http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-d...-manifold.html) but after calling Wake Makers the guy on the phone talked me out of them...
Can you elaborate on this comment?
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:03 PM
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Well that valve basically is a selector between to end tanks/bags. Set in one direction and you fill the tank, set it in the other and you fill the bag. I liked this because the bag is installed in the locker yet can still be removed without having to worry about permanent plumbing.

So the rub if you will from wake makers was that the valve was expensive and that it could be a restriction in the path. Mostly though he talked about cost. What I couldn't get out of my head was the permanent installation of the plumbed bags and the need to either reprogram or replace my timers. I also didn't like the idea that the overflow from the tank was what was filling my bag and thought that this couldn't be that efficient either. From reading posts on this site I know others have this set up and it seems to work well for them. I just liked the idea that I could have it both ways with the valves. If anyone has a couple hundred dollars I'd be willing to install this set up in my boat and test it for them. I'll even do the write up with pictures of the installation!

Being serious if the valves were $50 - $75 a piece they'd already be installed in my boat.
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:24 PM
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Well that valve basically is a selector between to end tanks/bags. Set in one direction and you fill the tank, set it in the other and you fill the bag. I liked this because the bag is installed in the locker yet can still be removed without having to worry about permanent plumbing.

So the rub if you will from Wake Makers was that the valve was expensive and that it could be a restriction in the path. Mostly though he talked about cost and how amazing the piggy back system was. I got the distinct feeling that I was being steered to the "Wagon Queen Family Truckster" from National Lampoon's Vacation. So either the valves are that bad or the other system is a real money maker for them or of course they're that good. I've dealt with Wake Makers a couple times and very happy with the service and the knowledgeable people answering the phones. I want to believe it's that the valves don't work so well. However if they're that bad I'm surprised they still sell them.

What I couldn't get out of my head was the permanent installation of the plumbed bags and the need to either reprogram or replace my timers. I also didn't like the idea that the overflow from the tank was what was filling my bag and thought that this couldn't be that efficient either. From reading posts on this site I know others have this set up and it seems to work well for them. I just liked the idea that I could have it both ways with the valves. If anyone has a couple hundred dollars I'd be willing to install this set up in my boat and test it for them. I'll even do the write up with pictures of the installation!

Being serious if the valves were $50 - $75 a piece I would have taken a gamble and they'd already be installed in my boat. At $120 a piece plus the work to take them out if they don't preform...... I'll pass.
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:59 PM
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Thanks for the comments. I currently have the Integrated Bow Sack piggied backed off the KGB tank/pump. I can fill the KGB totally and about 1/2 of the IBS when the pump will kick off. Since I have the BIG, I can set my fill time to a lot of time so I think it is kicking off due to back pressure. I was considering going the selector route as well but had the same though on the cost sunk if it does not pan out that well. I'd also have to drill an additional vent hole. Currently I just put up with toggling the pump switch repeatedly if I want the IBS totally full. All of that has me thinking maybe I should just be using a tsunami pump.

BTW, I really liked where you put the 12v outlet in the rear locker. Easy to get to, functional and out of sight. Currently the only ones I have are at the drivers seat and glove box which means when I run the air pump to fill the tubes for the kids, I have a cord stretched all the way through the seating area. I see this being a winter project for me.

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