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Old 02-15-2017, 03:23 PM
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X23 vs XT23 decision

After going to boat shows and reading reviews and test driving boats I have decided that I really want to purchase a new mastercraft.... struggling really hard between picking an X23 vs the XT23.

Main use will be cruising the lake and having fun, then surfing and wakeboarding with some skiing but very novice not for competition on any of the sports.

Reading reviews and the mastercraft website... everything seems to say go X23 if you mainly want to surf.... from comparing surfwaves on a 30 minute demo on each it is hard to tell a big difference as a novice.

I prefer the pickle fork bow of the X vs the XT.... like the sun deck of the XT over the X....

For a novice surfer / wakeboarder just wanting to have fun with friends... will I really notice a performance difference between the boats? any other pros and cons to discuss? What do you all recommend? Thank you for your help
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:30 PM
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Performance wise, youll never ski behind an X23. I took a friend of mine (Luke, hes on here) on an X23 to see the rec slalom wake.. He bought an X30. lol

X23 will be better at both wakesurfing and wakeboarding out of the box. Cons, (huge to me) is the 2:1 trans and how loud the boat is because of it.

If youre looking for a great all around boat, go with the XT.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:37 PM
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High class problem deciding between the two...

Basically, you can ski the XT23, but you can't ski an X23...at least not more so than a 25' I/O. You'll kill your knees even if you're not too aggressive. We went the XT23 route primarily for this reason.

The XT23 does surf really well, even out of the box; but I thought the X23 did surf a little better. No difference in wave height, but I thought the X23 wave was longer. Probably not a huge difference maker.

We actually like the rear lounge better on the X23 vs. the XT23, so that was a compromise to us. The new flip up XT23 sunpad seats make that less of an issue.

Other considerations - the XT23 does not need as big an engine. 5500 is plenty, can ever get away with the 5.7L. The X23 needs more. And the X23 kinda drives like a tank. It's not as bad as a G, but the XT23 is much more enjoyable to drive IMHO.

The X23 bow is much nicer, including the bow armrests.

As some have noticed in other threads, the XT23 has a great slow speed wakeboard wake. Maybe the best in the current lineup, though I haven't experienced them all. You need to be going a little faster in the X23 to clean it up.

I was in a very similar position last year...no regrets pulling the trigger on the XT23.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:43 PM
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As some have noticed in other threads, the XT23 has a great slow speed wakeboard wake. Maybe the best in the current lineup, though I haven't experienced them all.
This. Ive demo'd every boat in the current lineup (Except the Xstar) and it hands down has the best slow speed wake ive seen.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:54 PM
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The 30 is great for us, it handles rough water much better then our previous boat but compared to an X23 its not even close. Our friends have an X23 and its so much nicer on busy days. Depending on how rough your lake gets or how much cruising you do I'd keep that in mind. Assuming your lake is not crazy rough like ours, (its totally normal to be passed by a 40+ft searay on plane) from what it sounds like I'd say you should go with the XT23 to keep all water sports open as options and then if you find yourself wanting more in the surf or wakeboard realm you can add bags or lead if you really need it (this is what we did and are happy)
Also, I feel the bow is plenty roomy the only thing you lose with the traditional is a little storage and the ability to have two people facing read instead of just one. Arm rests are very nice though and wish we had those.


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Old 02-15-2017, 04:17 PM
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I vote xt23 or 2015 x30. Big thing for me was price difference and it's substantial. I didn't figure the benefits of the x23 (rear seats, longer wave, pickle) was worth the $30,000.

We've got four kids and the x30 is more than enough. Get a bow filler cushion and that becomes the kids spot. Also useful because they are shorter so you can see while you drive.



It's all about use for me in this decision xt23 is a more versatile boat imo. The x23 does two things really well (surf wake handle rough water) buy that said I was caught in a nasty storm. 3.5-4.5' waves. We were fine. Wet but fine.

I question if the wave on a x23 is much better. With 750's in the lockers and 500lbs of lead our wave got me to 17' back. Then put the people in the boat and move then around for steeper or longer if we had guests.




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Old 02-15-2017, 04:27 PM
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I have had both the X-30 and X-23. Very different boats.

I can ski behind the x-23, but I like to go wake-to-wake and enjoy the ramp it has. You will never ski a course with either the X-30 or X-23.

We cove a lot and really enjoy the rear facing seats of the X-23

The X-30 is super boat (but you weren't asking about it), so I won't go into it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:55 PM
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the comfort of the X23. If one of your main priorities is cruising the X23 will ride a lot better than the XT23 due to the hull shape and weight as it handles chop really well.

Having 160 hrs on my X23 I can tell you its an awesome boat. I haven't added any additional weight to the boat for surfing. I have tweaked the setting a bit but have added zero additional weight and that includes lead which is quite dangerous if you ask me.

I don't think that you can go wrong with either, but having looked at both, the X23 fit our needs. It does ride higher in the front than the XT23 and the added freeboard is nice. Its a very comfortable boat that really provides a great surf wake and wakeboard wake. I have put the boat should some bay chop, a busy river and its was barley noticeable.

Yes the 2:1 tranny is louder but I love the sound of the 6.2L when you hit the throttle.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:26 PM
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We bought a 2016 X23 at the end of last season and have zero regrets. Our lake can get very rough with 4' waves and 60 foot cruisers... The X23 handles the waves very very well!! We also looked at the XT23, but in the end decided to go with the X23. It was pretty much a toss up. I like the heavier weight because it gives us a better ride. Other than that... I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.

BTW...our very first pull behind the X23 was my 11 year old daughter on a slalom ski. The wake was surprisingly much better than we had predicted. If you really have to ski...find a person with a prostar and trade them some pulls.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:40 PM
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I have put hundreds of hours on both an X30 and X23. IMO the XT23 is a better "all around" boat if you want to do all watersports. The X23 is larger, more comfortable and a surf machine. We eventually phased out of skiing and focused on surfing so we are now X23 owners.

Good luck with whatever you decide. Either way you will love the boat you pick.
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