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Old 08-22-2012, 01:12 PM
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Floatation foam in Bow...remove?

Looking for information about the foam in the bow of the 1975 Mastercraft S&S. Can it be removed with no problems down the road? Does it offer structural support for the top of the bow to the hull? If I removed it, would I need to add bracing anywhere?

I'd like to have more room for storage ultimately...

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Old 01-29-2018, 11:41 AM
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Hello sealjw,
Im new at this forum and I recently purchased a 1974 stars & Stripes. I was curious about the same as you, what is in the bow section, what can be done in that section or should it be left alone.

Thanks for any information you may have.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:36 PM
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I started to let it go but...........

This thread is over five years old and the guy that wasted his time posting to begin with hasn't been here in over two and one half years. So really, why would one pass up the opportunity to bust your chops... (not that old threads are off-limits).

Fist thing....the only way I believe that you have an old boat is to see it. Otherwise it didn't happen....

I recently put in extra storage up front under the deck of an old boat... it works...thanks to my neighbor Ben who took the foam out and I did not have to do that part.

Take that mess out from under the deck and while you're at it, take the floor up and clean out under the floor...same mess.... and to answer your next question, (my opinion) don't worry about putting foam back in (nothing but the same mess) but if you particularly feel inclined to do so, then OK to that too.

And while you're there, lift the engine and set in new stringers. It never ends....until it's over...

One other thing on these old tugs....don't be afraid to drill, cut, realign, add or take away. Everything is easy and will always work out.

Don't forget new skins and carpet ==> $$$$

Welcome to the money pit hobby.

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Old 01-29-2018, 12:43 PM
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The flotation is there to keep it off the bottom of the lake in case it takes on water.


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The flotation is there to keep it off the bottom of the lake in case it takes on water.


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This is true! unless your foam is water logged
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:06 PM
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This is true! unless your foam is water logged
You ring?


For whatever this is worth to the reader:

So here's my understanding on the foam. Back in the day my folks owned a boat dock and a house boat as well. It was a booming place too (the dock). One day they got wind or word of the requirements of foam, etc... OK so short of the longer version...the foam originated from the USCG and later adopted by the EPA due to larger vessels being sunk(en) with no way to get to the vessel before it could spill many (?) gallons of onboard fuel... Bottom of a deep waterway made it hard to recover or divert an environmental issue with a spill (long before double hulls were implemented)...thus the foam... which trickled down to smaller vessels then all-inclusive vessels.

If I have misunderstood, then I stand corrected but this is how I knew it to come about. Really had nothing to do with personal safety at that time.

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Old 01-29-2018, 02:59 PM
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:01 PM
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This:
A couple of big ol' fat boys looking for their life jackets would send that right on down...

I'd like to have that nice new looking windshield before it goes down...
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Old 01-29-2018, 09:36 PM
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I started to let it go but...........

This thread is over five years old and the guy that wasted his time posting to begin with hasn't been here in over two and one half years. So really, why would one pass up the opportunity to bust your chops... (not that old threads are off-limits).

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Haha, Damn calling me out. But, glad I finally got an answer.

It has been awhile. But I still own the 1975 S&S and I'm still working on it. Bought a house built in the 1880's that needed a tone of renovation during the middle of the S&S build....then got married....But, I'm still working on it!

Now, that I know. I can take the foam out and keep moving forward!
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Old 01-29-2018, 09:43 PM
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Haha, Damn calling me out. But, glad I finally got an answer.

It has been awhile. But I still own the 1975 S&S and I'm still working on it. Bought a house built in the 1880's that needed a tone of renovation during the middle of the S&S build....then got married....But, I'm still working on it!

Now, that I know. I can take the foam out and keep moving forward!
Good for sticking with it. I'd love to see some photographs. I did an old boat and it was a trick to piece everything together but I made it work quite nicely....

Post up if you run into a snag....I'll share what little I know.

You'll need an underfloor bulkhead to pull it off....

best luck and congrats on the historic house and the new bride.
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