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Old 03-23-2013, 07:52 AM
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RTP is fine. MCX is better. I want to get up and ready ASAP through the course. An extra few seconds don't matter unless it's through a course, especially one with a short setup. I personally wouldn't buy a 197 without Powerslot and MCX. I don't foot so no comment there. But if I were a footer I would hold out for a 6.0. Wouldn't even go MCX
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:53 AM
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Here we go again on the MCX / RTP comparisons. Dyno sheets don't lie and if the execrations made by Indmar and other engine manufactures are true (as stated in another recent post) then your extra 10 - 15HP you get from the MCX (all at high RPM BTW) are not going to make any real noticeable difference in hole shot or what a boat can pull. Take this with the fact that we're talking about a 197 that weighs nothing compared to a x25 or a x30 and I'd have a hard time believing that the RTP wouldn't do well in this set up.

Would I rather have the MCX in two identical boats for sale at the same or very close price..... sure. Would it stop me from buying a boat of this size with an RTP..... no. I wonder how many people could actually pick the MCX out in a Pepsi challenge between boats. There are so many factors that go into overall performance when setting up a boat. With that little difference in HP a good prop versus a not so good prop could make up the difference in performance.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:56 AM
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"But if I were a footer I would hold out for a 6.0. Wouldn't even go MCX"

Now we're on the same page and that's something I can agree with. Two completely different animals there.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:58 AM
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Here we go again on the MCX / RTP comparisons. Dyno sheets don't lie and if the execrations made by Indmar and other engine manufactures are true (as stated in another recent post) then your extra 10 - 15HP you get from the MCX (all at high RPM BTW) are not going to make any real noticeable difference in hole shot or what a boat can pull. Take this with the fact that we're talking about a 197 that weighs nothing compared to a x25 or a x30 and I'd have a hard time believing that the RTP wouldn't do well in this set up.

Would I rather have the MCX in two identical boats for sale at the same or very close price..... sure. Would it stop me from buying a boat of this size with an RTP..... no. I wonder how many people could actually pick the MCX out in a Pepsi challenge between boats. There are so many factors that go into overall performance when setting up a boat. With that little difference in HP a good prop versus a not so good prop could make up the difference in performance.
RTP is a big deterrent for me for slalom. Not so much if it is inan x1 or x2 for boarding. The torque and HP curves have been posted here before
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:23 AM
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What does RTP mean? Boat looks good but it seems there are many questions to answered on its history.
RTP-1 is a throttle body injected Indmar GM 350ci/5.7L small block V8 with advertised @ 310 HP it's the engine on right, The MCX 5.7L is advertised @ 350 HP and is in the middle the, LY-6 6.0L is advertised @ 400 HP is on left...
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:08 AM
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"But if I were a footer I would hold out for a 6.0. Wouldn't even go MCX"

Now we're on the same page and that's something I can agree with. Two completely different animals there.
I agree as well!! Can't wait to try mine out this spring!!
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:07 AM
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[quote=bturner2;918403]"But if I were a footer I would hold out for a 6.0. Wouldn't even go MCX"

Sorry but I disagree, I have footed behind a 209 with the 310 and no problem at all. Yes the bigger motor would be nice but not a deal breaker for me. jmho.

My 205 only has the 275 and it is every bit of a barefoot boat that my Barefoot 200 was (well almost)
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:11 AM
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Ar for the 197 for sale, that is my favorite color design for this boat, if it were a 209 I would be very interested.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:11 PM
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I took the 14x20 prop off and put a 13.7x17.5 on it yesterday. Made a good difference in the holeshot. Speed dropped from 46.2 to around 45.4. Not much difference on the top end but much smoother in the low and middle. It felt like it had more power out of the water.

I'm not trying to start the RTP vs. MCX battle again, just my comment is, everything has been done behind my boat and i've never had complaints... I do have the powerslot though.

I don't think its fair to say to anyone looking that the RTP is incapable of anything or not prefered. I think thats a false statement. I want the ly6, not for any other reason than saying I have a 400 horse caddy. Thats my only reason.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:18 AM
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