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Old 03-22-2013, 03:50 AM
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Prostar 197 from 2005-2013?

G'day all,

Looking for info regarding current 197's. I currently have a 2005 197, and looking to upgrade in the future, and wondering people thoughts on the difference between the past few models up to and including the 2013, including change from the MCX motor to the 5.7 Ilmor variant?

Is the 2013 worth the effort over say 2011/2012 models? From what I can gather, only slight tweaks of the hull/ rudder ect has happened over the past few years, and still same basic hull for past 10+ years.

Hope there are some people with first hand experience between year models, and honest feedback.

Thanks guys.....
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:43 AM
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If you have the MCX or LY6 and powerslot and the '06 rudder upgrade I wouldn't replace it with a newer one. I'd kill to get my 05 back.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:01 AM
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What JohnE said. However, I know a lot of people who are particularly fond of the 2010 TT. My friend has one, and it skis well. But I don't know that I think the wake or steering is too different from the 2005 I have driven with the rudder upgrade.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:23 AM
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If you like your boat and you don't have the above upgrades, do them and save your money. Unless your one of those people who need the current motor because that's what pulls tournaments, or needs Zero Off for some reason.
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:27 PM
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Don't know if this helps but I changed from a 08 TT with MCX to a 11 TT with 6.0 Ilmor. Not that there was anything wrong with the 08 it's just that it was time to turn it over. My seat of the pants impression is that the 11 is a leap forward in refinement, quiteness, smoothness and I'm not really sure how to describe the feel goodedness. It's just nice. In terms of the way they ski, handle, I'd say they're the same although the 11 may be slightly more composed. I know it's not apples for apples as there is a jump in capacity but MCX Vs 6.0 is chalk and cheese. Response to throttle input is instant and at higher RPM there is none of the hard working coarseness that the MCX small block showed in the upper range. Can't really comment on other engine variations but the 6.0 is good for 6 mph over the MCX at WOT. Depending on where you are, I'd be happy enough if you where close by to bring your over and drive them back to back. Then you can make up your mind.
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:36 PM
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Wouldn't you need to go back to a 93 PS205 in order to upgrade?
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:53 PM
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If you barefoot, you will truly appreciate the power of the Ilmor powered 197s compared to the Indmar. Other than that, the vinyl is a big difference in the 2011-13 compared to the previous years.
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If you barefoot, you will truly appreciate the power of the Ilmor powered 197s compared to the Indmar. Other than that, the vinyl is a big difference in the 2011-13 compared to the previous years.
I still would take my '05 over a brand new '13. Dollar for dollar excluding resale factor.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:09 PM
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Do the rudder upgrade if you haven't already and ski. Probably cost you at least $15k to 'upgrade' to a new version for very little gain. Different vinyl and a different engine manufacturer. Apples to apples on displacement I am guessing you would have little better than chance to differentiate the powerplant if you didn't open the engine cover.

Wait until MC finally decides to redesign the Prostar. IF they ever get around to it.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:23 AM
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Thanks for all the input. I am out with a knee recon at the moment, and we always want a new boat.Just have a few minor cosmetic blemishes in the vinyl, ect, nothing structural. Currently have 1170hrs on motor, never been apart and you wouldnt know it had any more than 100hrs on it by the way it runs and looks.
I would consider a later upgrade just because I can at the moment.

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Don't know if this helps but I changed from a 08 TT with MCX to a 11 TT with 6.0 Ilmor. Not that there was anything wrong with the 08 it's just that it was time to turn it over. My seat of the pants impression is that the 11 is a leap forward in refinement, quiteness, smoothness and I'm not really sure how to describe the feel goodedness. It's just nice. In terms of the way they ski, handle, I'd say they're the same although the 11 may be slightly more composed. I know it's not apples for apples as there is a jump in capacity but MCX Vs 6.0 is chalk and cheese. Response to throttle input is instant and at higher RPM there is none of the hard working coarseness that the MCX small block showed in the upper range. Can't really comment on other engine variations but the 6.0 is good for 6 mph over the MCX at WOT. Depending on where you are, I'd be happy enough if you where close by to bring your over and drive them back to back. Then you can make up your mind.
dihrdskir....mate, thanks for the offer, but I am in Townsville, so guessing nowhere near yourself. I take it you would prefer the 6l over the 5.7l engines?
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