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Old 02-21-2013, 11:39 PM
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Its out and on my garage floor. Bellhousing and pump are off. Will wait to go further, parts should get here monday.

PS Kyle I found a manual, thanks again for your efforts.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:44 PM
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The tranny should have had water in it if it was leaking through the cooler.
Not always true. My cooler was leaking pretty seriously, but (as far as I can tell) didn't suck any water into the transmission - just pumped fluid out. Doesn't make much sense to me, but that's the way it was.

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Old 02-22-2013, 11:40 PM
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Kyle,

I lied, I started digging into this thing before my parts got here. Too eager to see what's inside. Got the whole clutch assembly out, but I am fighting with snap rings. My snap ring pliers arent doing the trick. Any tips? Trying not to fight them too much and ruin them. Am I being too careful?
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:56 AM
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alright got them loose. Definitely destroyed one. Hope they are sold individualy. Was able to "walk" most of them off with a screwdriver. The others all still look good.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:00 AM
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Kyle, you didn't need to do anything to the gear reduction box when you did your rebuild, did you? It's just gears so maybe the output seal?
I just put the out put or tail shaft seal in. Didnt do anything with the gears.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:07 AM
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That is very weird that it created a syphon and would draw fluid out without getting water inside.

I guess anything can be possible.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:09 AM
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Kyle,

I lied, I started digging into this thing before my parts got here. Too eager to see what's inside. Got the whole clutch assembly out, but I am fighting with snap rings. My snap ring pliers arent doing the trick. Any tips? Trying not to fight them too much and ruin them. Am I being too careful?
The snap rings are thick and pretty big.

My snap ring pliers are made by snap-on tools. I didn't have a problem with them, but I would recommend maybe trying to find a decent pair so when you go back together you can safely install the new rings without damaging them.


Also there is a real thick one that needs to removed around the drive clutches. I destroyed it getting it off. My snap ring pliers would not separate the ring. Lots of prying and twisting got it loose.

That was a piece that I had to order before reinstalling the internals.


Take some pics of your project.


How are the reverse clutches and plates? Are they worn bad or warped by chance?
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:55 PM
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:03 AM
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Reverse clutches look good to me. So does the pump, smooth as can be inside, but I sure would hate to put it all back together only to pull the tranny again. I think my main problem was fluid loss. No water in the tranny, not sure where it leaked. At least I will feel better with new clutches I guess. Still hoping to find the forward clutches torn to shreds but we will see. I posted the snap ring I ruined. Looks like I didnt even actually have to remove that one though now? It goes in front of the bearing on the input shaft. I am thinking there is not much more disassmebly needed at this point right? The planetary gear has sealing rings, but other than that, I dont see a reason to go any further, am I wrong? The shift selector, any reason to take it apart?
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:09 AM
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I am guessing fluid flows freely to the reduction gears, maybe I am losing fluid through the back? Should my overhaul kit have seals for the output shaft?
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