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Old 10-15-2012, 09:15 AM
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Slalom Wake Discussion: Which is Best?

I've searched and read a couple other threads that are similar, however, I wasn't very happy with the answers. Nothing definitive enough for me to come to a conclusion as a reader.

I'm getting ready to buy a different MasterCraft for next year. Just joined a ski club and I want a 190 or a 197 for the course. The wake on my 209 is "fine", however, I've skied behind a 197 at the same speeds and can tell a difference.

I've narrowed my search down to a 1994+ 190 or a 2000's 190/197. I definitely want Perfect Pass and Fuel injection. Those are a must. Other than that, nothing else really matters except (of course) the quality of the wake.

Currently we ski the course at 30 MPH but obviously that will change as we improve. I've heard a lot about the late 1990's PS 190. I've also heard good things about the 2003+ 197's.

Looking for the best "ALL AROUND SLALOM" wake. Answers from those who have experienced all the wakes are encouraged. No bias pretty please
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:26 AM
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I think some of the answer depends on how much you are looking to spend and how you will be using the boat when not in the course?
For pure skiing, in my opinion, you really can't go wrong with either choice but obviously, technology has improved thru the years so the newer hulls will offer benefits. I can not speak for the older 190's but I can tell you that the wake on the newer 197's is not very good at the 28-32 mph mark, depending of course on rope length and whether or not the skier is on edge. If the skier is on edge then the wake will not matter but if they are at 15 off and riding flat, they will get launched.
So, maybe not what you want to hear but, in my opinion if you ski right, any of the boats you mentioned will do the trick and will not be a limiting factor in your success.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:59 AM
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What club did you join? My suggestion for club skiing would be a 197 2005+.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:08 AM
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What club did you join? My suggestion for club skiing would be a 197 2005+.
It's a ski club in Shelbyville Indiana of about 20 people. Besides owning a 2005 197, why do you recommend the 2005+ over a 2003 or 2004 197? What changes were made in the later years that make the wake better?
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:26 AM
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I have always heard the 1994 year hull has one of the best slalom wakes. Not sure its its just the 205 or also the 190. People with experience can shout out and provide better information. Good Luck!
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:41 AM
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I get to ski behind a lot of different boats and different year models – both Mastercraft and some of those “off brands...”

Since you are deadset on a Mastercraft, I wont tell you that the SNs currently have the best slalom wake in the business, we’ll stick to Mastercraft talk.

The Mastercraft PS190 pre-1998 was awesome. They changed the hull and had a lot of issues, and I think they changed it again in 99. There is a thread here on TT that details it all. I really like the wake on Kyles 93 PS190, but its not EFI. The 1996 PS190 was EFI and skied awesome.

I have a 1993 PS205 and it also has a wonderful wake. There is however the infamous 22’ off bump. Fix your form, and you wont feel it (seriously). You have to have the ski on edge for it or it will punish you.

Any year of PS197 that I have skied behind skis great. Seems the wake is a little wider on it (to me anyways), but there is no 22’ off bump.

I will say that my experience has been that the older Prostars track better than the PS197.

It’s your choice... The 197 is modern, has more creature comforts, will be easier to get parts and service on. The older Prostars are timeless beautiful classics that you can take pride in restoring, have a cool factor at the lake, and ski and track awesome.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:48 AM
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It's a ski club in Shelbyville Indiana of about 20 people. Besides owning a 2005 197, why do you recommend the 2005+ over a 2003 or 2004 197? What changes were made in the later years that make the wake better?
My assumption is because 05 and newer are drive by wire.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:35 PM
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91 - 94 PS190s are the same excellent hull, different cosmetics. I believe they introduced the fuel injection option in 94. From what I understand MasterCraft got kinda lost for a few years after 94 and the slalom wake was not so great for a while. Not exactly sure when they got back on track. There is a lot of info available here on TT, just have to look a little.

Do you need open bow for family friendly? Technology has definitely improved boats. Now the boats are bigger for more storage, family or just elbow room.

For money and purpose my 91 is just right, solid tracking, great 3 event boat and great price when I got it in 04. Also, lots of resources for DIY.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:37 PM
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91 -94 were a home run and then the hull was changed for 95 - 97 and was still a great wake. 98 - 00 were considered not up to par by many
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For money and purpose my 91 is just right, solid tracking, great 3 event boat and great price when I got it in 04. Also, lots of resources for DIY.
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