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Old 07-11-2017, 02:15 PM
Kenny Hughes Kenny Hughes is offline
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14 X-Star "Dialed" in Surf Set-Up

Hello All! I have a 2014 x-star without any aftermarket bag and without any surf tabs at all. I have been struggling to find the perfect Surf wave in the boat.

Is the Gen 2 surf system a must? or can you get by with an aftermarket surf tab set up? Or do I need both?

What aftermarket bags fit the rear perfectly(size and brand)? What aftermarket bags fit the front lockers perfectly?

I know someone out there has this down to a science, please lay some knowledge on an MC brother.

Thank You -Kenny
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:46 PM
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14 X-Star "Dialed" in Surf Set-Up

You will not regret gen 2. It makes the star on par with the best. It'll also help with wakeboard takeoffs with the autolaunch (all three tabs down).

I have a 13 with gen2. I got mine as a 2 year leftover shortly after gen 2 was available. I was told that sales were slow in part because it surfed so badly prior to gen 2.
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Old 07-11-2017, 03:05 PM
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Ive seen a few videos of steel lafferty's boat with gen 2, and its REALLY good
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:41 AM
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Hi kenny

I had the same as you , I got xstar no gen 2 not additional ballast bags .

So left wave (regular surfer) is "easier" you can get it by listing the boat on port side with factory port plus additional ballast bag( or few adults ) . Right wave (goofy) you need surf tab or wake shaper/gate device , I did try listing but it will not clean ..

I end up installing Go Surf Assist tabs , we only tried once . We wakeboard more than wakesurf. But the first results were positive , at least now we can surf right hand (goofy) rope-less. For this first trial I did follow recommendations , port factory 50% , central 100% , starboard factory 100% + 700lbs bag on each locker . As said manage to get a decent wave not too high , I have the handicap of been on a very salt water, so loads of flotation, so I need to get hold of more ballast bags than above to get a bigger wake .

Will keep trying after 2nd August to dial and try new configurations, will let you know if we progress .

ricardo
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:12 AM
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I have a set of Sumo 675's that will fit perfectly in your '14 Xstar if your interested....

You will certainly need a ballast upgrade and a wake shaper (genII) to make the Gen 3 hull surf. I am sure you could surf port side decently with your current setup but I wouldn't expect much.

Port side like most boats is the easiest to achieve.

PORT SURF:
Full Factory / Full PWT / 600 lbs lead. even distribution
65-75% Starboard tab
10.5-11.5MPH depending on the length and height desired. I prefer 11+ w/ Auto Launch ON

* I used to run no front ballast but once I added the lead I felt wake was just too steep and needed the small front PWT bags.

STARBOARD SURF:
Full factory / 50% Port Locker bag, the rest @ 100% / 600 lbs lead biased to Starboard side
90% Port tab
10.5-11.5 MPH w/ Auto Launch ON

The stars really have to align for my starboard surf to clean up... its just finicky so I typically just surf port side.

Lots of factors at play here so experimenting is your best option. Good Luck!
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:14 AM
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here is the Sumo 674 installed in my boat...
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:09 PM
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How much do you want for the rear bags?
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:27 PM
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$275 includes two 675lb bags (used once) and both male & female Flow rite fittings.
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:40 PM
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I have a set of Sumo 675's that will fit perfectly in your '14 Xstar if your interested....

You will certainly need a ballast upgrade and a wake shaper (genII) to make the Gen 3 hull surf. I am sure you could surf port side decently with your current setup but I wouldn't expect much.

Port side like most boats is the easiest to achieve.

PORT SURF:
Full Factory / Full PWT / 600 lbs lead. even distribution
65-75% Starboard tab
10.5-11.5MPH depending on the length and height desired. I prefer 11+ w/ Auto Launch ON

* I used to run no front ballast but once I added the lead I felt wake was just too steep and needed the small front PWT bags.

STARBOARD SURF:
Full factory / 50% Port Locker bag, the rest @ 100% / 600 lbs lead biased to Starboard side
90% Port tab
10.5-11.5 MPH w/ Auto Launch ON

The stars really have to align for my starboard surf to clean up... its just finicky so I typically just surf port side.

Lots of factors at play here so experimenting is your best option. Good Luck!

man excuse my noobness. But what do you mean by PWT and lead weight?

Last edited by Kenny Hughes; 07-13-2017 at 05:58 PM.
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Old 07-13-2017, 06:10 PM
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This is my first season with out 13 star. I struggled at first but after some reading of this fourm I've got mine set up as one 800 ronix bag in the port locker, one 800 ronix bag in the port side ski locker, one 1100 pound bag on the floor against the port side wall/seat, and all stock ballast full EXCEPT starboard ballast tank.

Could it be cleaner, yes. Does it have a ton of push, yes! For the bad rap a star gets for surfing I'm very impressed especially since I love the lay out and look of the boat.

I haven't spent much time dialing the wake so maybe someone else can chime in with suggestions
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