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Old 06-29-2012, 02:31 PM
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Seems like a simple solution to most of the problems I have heard about is to lock 1/2 of the software developers in one room and tie the other 1/2 to a boat until the interface/software bugs are worked out and a manual is produced. I also assume that the software/interface issues are associated with a 3rd party so it should not cost MC anything.

Most (not all) of the rest of the issues I have read about can be chaulked up to "It's a boat...stuff happens" kind of stuff.

Maybe all the boat manufacturers should think twice about adding a Facebook interface to their boat management systems. I am all for technolgical advances but.....
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:02 PM
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Seems like a simple solution to most of the problems I have heard about is to lock 1/2 of the software developers in one room and tie the other 1/2 to a boat until the interface/software bugs are worked out and a manual is produced. I also assume that the software/interface issues are associated with a 3rd party so it should not cost MC anything.

Most (not all) of the rest of the issues I have read about can be chaulked up to "It's a boat...stuff happens" kind of stuff.

Maybe all the boat manufacturers should think twice about adding a Facebook interface to their boat management systems. I am all for technolgical advances but.....
I've honestly been very skeptical of all this technology going into these boats lately. My 1999 sportstar is as pure a boat as they get...hull, engine, prop, rudder, steering wheel, guages.

I think any boat that needs a 'software update' to function properly is just asking for trouble down the road. I guarantee half of these computer systems don't even work in 5 years and MC will want 10k plus to replace.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:25 PM
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two words for anyone buying a new Mastercraft boat- "Classic Dash" that is the designator to get your boat with guages and toggle switches, ballast timers are easily adjusted for the fly high plug n play system, things just work. I have a 2011 X2, the service manager at my dealership told me to get the classic dash, save my money to put in the wet sounds system that I wanted. Best advice I ever received. I am 279 housr into this boat over less than a year and have had 0 issues, not even a glitch. Well I did have to change my oil a few times.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:28 PM
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I would agree tommy. I just bought my first boat, a 1992 PS205 in very good condition, 20 years old and everything works great. I like the simplicity. I am interested to see how these new boats are holding up in 20 years. A friend had a SANTE from the early 2000s and the digital gauges were failing him within two years, you couldn't tell if the number was a 3 a 5 or an 8. That boat had 1/10th of the tech the new boats have. If people replace computers, phones, and ipads every 2-3 years what are they to do with a 10-20 year old boat? The new dashes are basically a tablet that controls all boat functions. Will these new boats depreciate more due to maintenace costs? If it cost $58 to replace a seat bracket what is it going to cost to replace the pop-up dash on the new x-star?
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:42 PM
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[quote=nauti-dreamer;853752]I'm sure the customers that buy up all the 2-3 year old boats are very appreciative of the troubleshooting that the "new" boat owners have done in the first 100 hours....And for absorbing the initial sticker shock.

I think I may have to get into that market!

That's what I did and I literally just thought About it the other day that if/when I buy another boat, I'll buy a year old with 100hrs again. The key is knowing or trusting the person that had the boat for the first year and sorted it all out for you.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:37 PM
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Here's my issues so far on my 2011 X25:

Metal bar on bolster seat cutting in to upholstery (warranty replacement)

Swim pad already coming up (warranty replacement)

BIG flashing random green lines across screen ( next warranty replacement )

Love the boat but the small things drive me nuts.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:46 PM
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Sorry to hear your guys issues. I was reamed a new one in another thread for bringing up the bad........... Hate to see it happen , but I wasn't as crazy as they made me out to be and wanted to portray. The boats are still rock solid and one of the best put together on the market. Their wakes for boarding and skiing are still my favorite. They just aren't working out the "bugs" before them send them off and the final quality control has been slacking. Seriously who sends out a boat without a manual. They are more concerned with promo vids and hype then their product these days and it's showing. Hope they get u guys dialed.

We all know all boats have issues that's why they are called boats. It's the frequency and the items with which the new boats are having. They are no longer "little things". These boas are so linked with every piece of technology one little thing will become big fast. I will continue to encourage my buddy's and friends to do everything aftermarket and order boats stripped. Toggle switches and on off buttons will never fail. My family members 25 if killing it. We decided to run all the extra ballast from scratch. Now with all the issues at least we still have ballast.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:24 PM
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two words for anyone buying a new Mastercraft boat- "Classic Dash" that is the designator to get your boat with guages and toggle switches, ballast timers are easily adjusted for the fly high plug n play system, things just work. I have a 2011 X2, the service manager at my dealership told me to get the classic dash, save my money to put in the wet sounds system that I wanted. Best advice I ever received. I am 279 housr into this boat over less than a year and have had 0 issues, not even a glitch. Well I did have to change my oil a few times.
I was told by a dealer that mastercraft may do away with the option for the classic dash.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:53 PM
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It's too bad to read about this. But I agree these boats should be close to zero defect when they are delivered. They are not making that many in the grand scheme of things.

At the prices they sell for - and the level of sales the boats should be damn near perfect when they hand you the keys.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:26 PM
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I was told by my dealer yesterday that for 2013 all MC's will come with a touch screen. 4" is standard, 7" is the upgrade...
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