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Old 07-10-2012, 11:00 PM
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hogwild, i can simply say this, the salesman let me take a touareg tdi to the lake on the 5th of july. granted i didn't tow but 3 miles to the ramp with it but i was very impressed. i got 31 mpg on my 40 miles each way. now i just need a 2011- 2012 with a few miles on it for price reasons. not many used ones out there.

i have owned a 01, 05 sequoia along with a 07 tahoe then back to 08 sequoia then my current 06 cruiser and by all means the touareg had better power and mgp's!

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Old 07-10-2012, 11:37 PM
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I haul my maristar 230 with my gmc 2500 duramax. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:17 AM
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In considering Chevy GMC or Toyota you should consider the rear end gear ratio for towing. Tahoes, suburbans have 3.42 At best in the rears, they even offer a 3.08. Wow what a dog! The sequoia has a 3.90 I believe.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:22 AM
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I just bought a 2012 GMC Sierra 1500. It has the 3.42 gears in it. I got rid of a 2003 GMC Yukon XL with 3.73 gears. I was a little worried but the Sierra has a 6 speed tranny. Just towed 6 hours to Lake Cumberland and it did an awesome job in my opinion. I vote GMC!!!!

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Old 07-11-2012, 10:28 AM
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I just got a 2012 Suburban , I had a 2005 but it nickle and dimed me to death , I like the longer wheelbase of the suburban over the tahoe . But the new style transmision is a bit wierd. It wants to downshift all the time . I get about 10 mpg when towing and 19 when not. I like the fit and finish and I have the trailer pack so it has the nice 3:42 rear and heavy duty cooling. hope this helps
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:50 AM
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Hogwild here is my two cents. I have the same truck you do a 2005 V8 4runner and my wife had a Honda Pilot. Obviously we towed the boat with the 4runner and we love the truck. We have 4 kids so decided to get the wife a bigger vehicle and something that would tow the boat and the next MasterCraft .

Long story short I love Toyota and wanted a Sequoia, but they are about impossible to find and my experience with the dealers over the 6 months I looked for one was that many Toyota dealers are a bunch of arrogant bastards. Basically was told that they were going to sell them for a premium and not deal and that was that, because after all it was a Toyota and a Sequoia. Guess I'll take my $50k and go buy something else then...

So........We drove everything from Expedition, Yukon, Escalade and Sequoias. On the way home from driving a Sequoia late one evening I told her lets stop and and have you drive a Nissan Armada just to compare, because we weren't considering Nissan at that point. That was the end of our shopping spree. We bought an Armada 3 months ago and couldn't be more happy. Only downside is it's a bit rough on fuel, but we knew that when we bought it and I'm assuming that most in the market for a vehicle like this doesn't have fuel economy at the top of their list of priorities. Fuel has been 14/15 regular city driving, 17/18 highway and 12/13 towing.

Armada rides great, quiet, plenty of room for the kids and all their baseball equipment and has all the bells and whistles and would tow the house if it had wheels. The first couple of years they were around back in 04 and 05 they had bad reviews for reliability, but that seems to be behind them.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:54 AM
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I would also give the nissan armada or titan (exact same) a great review. I have driven and towed with an 05 titan and they have great torque where it is needed. But, I couldn't get 14 on the highway for mileage, and this is seeming to be common with them.

Also, to the guy who said GM can't get 3.73's, that is correct with a 5.3 and 6 speed, doesn't matter which vehicle. All 4 speed transmissions were "offered" with 3.73's. But I would run far away from any gm with the 4 speed transmission. Not good for anything but s10 pickups.

I have heard rumors that the expedition is possibly coming out with the ecoboost motor. That would take the cake in the SUV class, and the only two half ton trucks I would consider would be the ford f150 with ecoboost motor, or the GM with 6.2l. Both of these will get at least 15 average. I just used my GMC with a 6.2l too tow a 35 foot camper weighing 8,000 pounds 700 miles. Pulled great and average 8.6-9.2 MPG. Pulling the maristar with people and gear I get around 12-13. Truck is good. This is also with a leveling kit and 285/70 tires (about 2" taller and about 1.5" wider).
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:23 AM
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02 Ford Excursion, 7.3 diesel. 8 pax, one ton internal capacity, tows 11K. Pretty much not a fair fight to compare it to other SUV tow vehicles. 16mpg (loaded).
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 190 PS View Post

Armada rides great, quiet, plenty of room for the kids and all their baseball equipment and has all the bells and whistles and would tow the house if it had wheels. The first couple of years they were around back in 04 and 05 they had bad reviews for reliability, but that seems to be behind them.
I would have to echo everything here. I am on my second Armada and for towing in the SUV class nothing compares. It has 3/4 ton capacity at 9000lbs and will start and stop any MC (maybe not the 300). I get 10-12 mpg towing. I got 15.8 driving 70-75 from here to Crested Butte, CO. At 65mph I average 17.4 mpg. I have a 2010 4wd Titanium. I had an 04 before this and it was reliable when I traded it with 95,000 miles. They have more front and second row passenger seating room. Third row is bigger than any competitor but as a result storage inside behind the third row is not as good a Chevy/GMC. Most importantly they are heavy enough to stop whatever you're pulling. Good Luck.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:25 PM
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My vote for new model Yukon Denali or Cadillac Eacalade. 6.2L aluminum block V8's, they look great, and the rear Autoride auto-leveling function means you are always towing level. No brainer IMO. Mine tows my X25 like a champ. I go 1400 Km through mountains no prob. Wait a year though new models coming out next year.
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