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Old 08-21-2012, 11:11 PM
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Ok Im way confused, to many bags everyone is talking about. i ride goofy and I need a simple setup since I use my storage for storage, LOL
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:17 PM
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Then simply put, you will never have a good surf wake if you don't want to fill your storage compartments with either fat sacs or lead pop bags You need to fill the rear locker and lose the storage there, you will need to fill the cooler space with weight and lose that spot as well and you'll need to put weight up in the bow under the seats too. There is more than enough storage on an X25 for all the junk you could need on the water even when filling one side with weight. If you surf goofy and you need more storage than the entire port side than there's other issues going on If you want a good surf wake you need to put 2500lbs+ worth of total ballast in the boat (not including people but with this weight you don't need any people ballast).Put a 750lbs sac in the back locker, I'd put 750lbs of pop bags there the cooler goes and fill that space in between there and the back locker. Fill the stock KGB and stock starboard tanks and put 300-400lbs in the port side bow under the seat. That should make it pretty good and would be about 2500lbs in ballast. If you don't want to move the cooler you can put the 750 sac in the back locker and put another 750lbs sac on the starboard seat.
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:22 AM
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Ok Im way confused, to many bags everyone is talking about. i ride goofy and I need a simple setup since I use my storage for storage, LOL
Here is my setup for goofy (I ride goofy):

Full KGB and Starboard tanks.
455 lb X2 sac in rear locker.
370 lb tube sac under cooler seat which extends to front of X2 sac under suction strainer.
400 lb sac on starboard seat.

Total about 2000 lbs of extra ballast.

Set PP at 11.2 mph. Easily have a 15' pocket and can go further back with some pumping.
Experimenting with some nose weight as well.

Ryan, how you set up for nose weight? I was thinking the Nautique wedge sacs?

Also, talking to my dealer about plumbing most of these bags in.
I'll let you know what we come up with.
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:29 AM
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Why are people bragging about leaving the wakeboards in favour of surfing? Especially when its behind an X-25. Honest question.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:19 AM
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Why are people bragging about leaving the wakeboards in favour of surfing? Especially when its behind an X-25. Honest question.
Because when you wipe you just slide gently into the water ... as opposed to getting the dual-mode sinus/traditional enema. Plus, it's surfing with an endless wave and no paddling!
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:28 AM
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Also, talking to my dealer about plumbing most of these bags in.
I'll let you know what we come up with.
'12 with BIG?
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:09 AM
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Why are people bragging about leaving the wakeboards in favour of surfing? Especially when its behind an X-25. Honest question.
Has an amazing wake for sure. We run it stock only and its huge and clean foreever!
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:11 AM
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Yes. We are not going to be tying it into the stock system.
Probably 2 separate pumps/switches with a manifold.
Am thinking a pump for starboard and pump for port.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:53 AM
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Nick I put 300-400lbs in 50lbs pop bags in the front bow under the seats. Lengthens the wake a lot. Speed wise we go 11.5-12.0 GPS'd. More speed helps a lot as well.

501s- I don't think anyone is bragging about not wake boarding. If you want to get really good at wake boarding with spins, big air and tricks you're going to get wrecked. I've had two really bad concussions and tore up both my shoulders trying to save some landings I shouldn't have. Most people at a certain point aren't willing to keep getting hurt wake boarding. Being very good at wake boarding is pretty difficult but doing the hard tricks on a surf board I have learned is also VERY difficult.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:21 PM
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Ok Im way confused, to many bags everyone is talking about. i ride goofy and I need a simple setup since I use my storage for storage, LOL
You will have to lose some storage space, but just for the time you surf. Pile that stuff in the bow. Unless you are going to be surfing 90%+ of the time, I wouldn't plumb in anything "permanent". A pair of 350 Straight Line Big Bags, one in the locker, one on the seat and away you go. If you can't surf with that, then keep trying. Thatís all I run on my 09 Xstar and it works for us. The boys are doing 360's, ollies, working on their shuv-its. It would be even better on your X25.
I am struggling with sacking out the boat and spending hours (okay, okay, minutes) just filling and emptying bags just so we can surf 20 feet back.
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