Go Back   TeamTalk > Classifieds Buy/Sell > For Sale: Boats

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 03-27-2012, 09:16 PM
mikeg205's Avatar
mikeg205 mikeg205 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Boat: 1995 Pro Star 205 5.7 Liter
Location: Plainfield - Joliet, IL
Posts: 9,419
Send a message via Skype™ to mikeg205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boilr View Post
Took the first pull of the year today...I'll probably need the Aleve tomorrow. Anyone have some good exercises to help make the firstfew pulls a little easier on the old body?
Exercises that strengthen your core...pilates, rowing etc. - cycling for legs along with weight training...a dynaflex ball to strengthen your grip and forearm...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000W1A83G/...hvptwo=&hvqmt=

Also, slow and go on the deep water start - stopped and a hole shot - "hit it" tires you out... at least that works for this 52 year old body...feel better now than I did when I was 40.
__________________
...A bad day water skiing still beats a good day at work...1995 Pro Star 205....
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-27-2012, 09:17 PM
mikeg205's Avatar
mikeg205 mikeg205 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Boat: 1995 Pro Star 205 5.7 Liter
Location: Plainfield - Joliet, IL
Posts: 9,419
Send a message via Skype™ to mikeg205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boilr View Post
Took the first pull of the year today...I'll probably need the Aleve tomorrow. Anyone have some good exercises to help make the firstfew pulls a little easier on the old body?
Exercises that strengthen your core...pilates, rowing etc. - cycling for legs along with weight training...a dynaflex ball to strengthen your grip and forearm...


Also, slow and go on the deep water start - stopped and a hole shot - "hit it" tires you out... at least that works for this 52 year old body...feel better now than I did when I was 40.
__________________
...A bad day water skiing still beats a good day at work...1995 Pro Star 205....
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-28-2012, 01:23 PM
DooSPX's Avatar
DooSPX DooSPX is offline
MC Maniac
 
Join Date: May 2005
Boat: 1991 MasterCraft Prostar 190 PowerSlot
Location: Central, FL
Posts: 3,125
Send a message via AIM to DooSPX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloaked View Post
One thing (far-fetched) that comes to mind is that your working harder behind the 190 than the Response. Check your speed to see if the 190 is pulling correctly or if the Response is pulling you hot. Hard work usually indicates lagging in the water for one reason or another. Wake characteristics will also make for a hard pull when comparing. Technique will suffer with different wakes to navigate when on edge(s).

The 190 is typically considered an adequate tow boat, however in my younger days of skiing, I have seen (or more-so heard) Kris LaPoint pull a MC down like it had an outboard on it at 28 off for a warm-up pass... thus the R&D soon after those years, for the Powerslot (then to come).
I believe you are referring to the redesigned hull in 91 when they only had the 240hp 351W. The 91 w/ the 1:1 DID pass as I recall looking at the AWSA reports, but barely. It did fine with the 240hp 1.52:1 Powerslot though. Appeared to score about the same as the 285hp 1:1 offered in 92. The extra wetted surface area on the new hull paired with the 240hp and 1:1 need the extra pull to maintain speed and tracking of the 1.52:1.
After the 240hp 1:1, the PS190 was once again king of the tow boats. No boats of that era could touch the wake and pull of the PS190.

To refer to the 190 as a "adequate" tow boat is a little on the off side of the truth. Also the same Powerslot 1.52:1 transmission has been offered in the MC since 1980 I believe, there was no R&D involved to add the Powerslot to the hull as it was always available. Though, even a 1:1 paired with the 240hp 351W in past hulls was always a boat to be reckoned with. The problem arouse in 1991 with the new hull, it was the first time that a 1:1 with the 240hp 351W had issues with passing the AWSA approved list. As I stated above, I believe it did pass, but just barely.

The 91-94 Prostar 190 is still considered by skiers to be the best wake of any prostar, but suffered from chin spray once you got into the deep 30's off.
__________________
1991 PROSTAR 190 Flagship Blue POWERSLOT OJ XMP CNC 13.7x17.5 .110 4B
A.K.A. One of a kind mistake
2011 Best In Show- 1987-2000 class

Trying to keep slalom alive

Need a new prop to fit your needs? Call OJ PROPS 800-359-9730

Quote:
Originally Posted by flipper View Post
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid, than to open it and prove it"?

Last edited by DooSPX; 03-28-2012 at 02:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:49 PM
east tx skier's Avatar
east tx skier east tx skier is offline
MC Hero
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Boat: 1998 Ski Nautique
Location: End of my rope.
Posts: 25,023
It was approved with the 1:1 in 1991.
__________________
Previous: 1993 Prostar 205

Red 1998 Closed Bow Ski Boat, Ford 351, 310 hp, Acme 4 blade, Perfect Pass SG.

FAQ


Tyler Ski Club


To me, this forum is about love of inboard boats. It is about the sharing of information and, on a good day, some humor. It is not about post count, brand of boat, or any other superfluous labels that lend themselves to a false sense of superiority. Please, respect one another, try to pass on accurate information, and keep your eye on the ball.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:55 PM
DooSPX's Avatar
DooSPX DooSPX is offline
MC Maniac
 
Join Date: May 2005
Boat: 1991 MasterCraft Prostar 190 PowerSlot
Location: Central, FL
Posts: 3,125
Send a message via AIM to DooSPX
Quote:
Originally Posted by east tx skier View Post
It was approved with the 1:1 in 1991.
Thanks Doug! I thought it was, but could not find my records of the list!

My other statements are correct right?
__________________
1991 PROSTAR 190 Flagship Blue POWERSLOT OJ XMP CNC 13.7x17.5 .110 4B
A.K.A. One of a kind mistake
2011 Best In Show- 1987-2000 class

Trying to keep slalom alive

Need a new prop to fit your needs? Call OJ PROPS 800-359-9730

Quote:
Originally Posted by flipper View Post
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid, than to open it and prove it"?
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:57 PM
Boilr's Avatar
Boilr Boilr is offline
TT Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Boat: 1993 Mastercraft Prostar 190, 351 Indmar
Location: Mid West
Posts: 30
Thanks for the tips. I've also been on a pretty harsh diet to get me back to fighting weight. I'll also look into the exercise. Thank you!
__________________
Ski ya later!
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:02 PM
Boilr's Avatar
Boilr Boilr is offline
TT Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Boat: 1993 Mastercraft Prostar 190, 351 Indmar
Location: Mid West
Posts: 30
Lets put it this way, when my friends and I go slalom skiing... the 05 Nautique, the 99 Sammy Duval and the 09 Response sit on the lifts. Everyone loves to slalom behind the 93.
__________________
Ski ya later!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:29 PM
DooSPX's Avatar
DooSPX DooSPX is offline
MC Maniac
 
Join Date: May 2005
Boat: 1991 MasterCraft Prostar 190 PowerSlot
Location: Central, FL
Posts: 3,125
Send a message via AIM to DooSPX
I bet they do! I hate to see you get rid of her! You have one of the best!
__________________
1991 PROSTAR 190 Flagship Blue POWERSLOT OJ XMP CNC 13.7x17.5 .110 4B
A.K.A. One of a kind mistake
2011 Best In Show- 1987-2000 class

Trying to keep slalom alive

Need a new prop to fit your needs? Call OJ PROPS 800-359-9730

Quote:
Originally Posted by flipper View Post
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid, than to open it and prove it"?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:53 PM
Iskidaily Iskidaily is offline
TT Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Boat: 2002 X-Star (current) 1994 PS190, 1990 TriStar
Location: southeast
Posts: 196
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boilr View Post
Lets put it this way, when my friends and I go slalom skiing... the 05 Nautique, the 99 Sammy Duval and the 09 Response sit on the lifts. Everyone loves to slalom behind the 93.
I want to ski behind the '93 too! Great boat. Great Hull. Don't sell!
__________________
2002 X-Star - Current
1993 PS190
1990 TriStar
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 03-28-2012, 08:27 PM
Cloaked Cloaked is offline
MC Maniac
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Boat: MasterCraft
Location: Kingston,TN USA
Posts: 4,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooSPX View Post
I believe you are referring to the redesigned hull in 91
No Sir. I'm talking about 1976-78. Has nothing to do with internet copy and paste info. I've seen most all of the (then young) professionals work a boat to the core of its ability all the while, the only way it produce results for the skier (a slow pass requires a repull, and a world record is not what anyone wants a slow pass) was the driver's skills. It's something you have to see and hear to realize how far the Skier 19 / 190 series has progressed. Drivers like Jack Walker were skillful and were a vital part of a skier's success in torunament skiing. No one wanted a rookie driver. Adequate is an accurate description relative to the variables that come into play. This 190 does what it was made to do under conditions relevant to performance and ever-changing conditions. Anything more than adequate would be my opinion of spitting out 100 dollar bills at my command. It's a machine with limitations, everything relative to other machines.

That hull era also was considered a variable planing hull to accommodate slalom wakes, jump wakes (for the double-cut setup) and tricking for crisp wakes to get height on either a hand pass or a toe pass.

Thus my amazement of a wake tower on a 190 or a skier 19. That hull was not designed to produce wakes, actually quite the opposite. Even to sink a boat with a bucket of water is far from effective on that hull. It's the same shallow and wide draft regardless. But it's each to their own. Just an observation and my $0.02.

.

.
__________________
93 190
.
Don't be a boot licker
.

Hose picture (internal) http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...68&postcount=8



Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrall View Post
..Some of you give a whole new meaning to the phrase "another @sshole with a Mastercraft."

RE: Thrall, Welcome to the club....
NEW SKINS in TN... Leading Edge Marine Interior

feedback on a TN company: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=58767

.

Last edited by Cloaked; 03-28-2012 at 08:44 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:42 PM.