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Old 06-03-2017, 08:02 AM
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Considering a new "Surf First" boat

I now have 200 amazing hours on my X25. Thanks to all of you for your help along the way.

My family has decided that surfing is our primary activity. As a result, I'm going to begin a discovery process and try each of the top manufacturers "Surf First" boats.

My criteria are:

1. Surfs both sides incredibly well out of the box. I don't want of ton of "Dialing in" that needs to be done. Although some of that is ok. Needs to perform well with only 3 people on board.
2. I don't want any discussions that go like this.....If you just add bags here, or if you just had 10 offensive lineman on board then.....
3. I don't want ballast to delete my storage
4. 21 feet or longer
5. Can be safely towed short distances by a F150
6. Prefer pickle forks as I like the extra space up front - and we board the boat in the slip from the front.
7. Has a monster warranty. For this much money I don't want to worry about anything. My X25 has had issues of various shapes and sizes. Mostly small. But seems like an inordinate amount of them for the price point of the boat.
8. Economics will be one of the measurements between the boats. I know this is going to be expensive.
9. I need a dealer that is nearby with a strong reputation.
10. I'd prefer the boat to be supported by a 6K pound lift as I just purchased a new one this year.

My plan is to test drive the top surf boats from:

1. Mastercraft Obviously. Assume that means the X23. I hope my next experience on one will be better than my first. Wave wasn't that great and there were a lot of excuses. Statement went something like, "if you put a bunch of people on board the wave in unreal". That might be true but that is also true on my X25.
2. G23- excited to try this boat
3. Malibu Wakesetter
4. Tige? Not sure which one.

For comparisons sake, my X25 does surf fairly well. However it does take a lot of work to get it dialed in, even with Gen2. I've tried almost every great piece of advice from you guys to get the most out of the boat. I've upgraded the bags, added bags, etc. I think I'm getting the most out of the boat. And its not bad. Although I've eliminated much of the storage to get the wave I like and I spend too much time with Tsunami pumps.

So...anybody have any advice for me?
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:20 AM
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For strong surf only out of the box
1- X23
2 - G21
3 - G23 2016 +
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:30 AM
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Upland - I see you have fallen victim to the temptation now. Lol. My two choices came down to the X23 and the G23. My dealer and the out of box surf wave were the only reason I went back with Mastercraft. Feel free to give me a shout about the X23 if you have any questions. I continue to be amazed by the surf wave.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:36 AM
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Upland - I see you have fallen victim to the temptation now. Lol. My two choices came down to the X23 and the G23. My dealer and the out of box surf wave were the only reason I went back with Mastercraft. Feel free to give me a shout about the X23 if you have any questions. I continue to be amazed by the surf wave.
Lets hope I don't fall victim to divorce over this...Lol
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:53 AM
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Will a 6K lift work for an X23? Seems like it might be pretty close to the limit.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:03 AM
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I trailer back and forth, but that seems like it might be pushing it when the boat is full of fuel and gear. However I'm no expert on lifts.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:32 PM
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25 LSV has the best "out of the box" surf wave in the industry.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:35 PM
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25 LSV has the best "out of the box" surf wave in the industry.
Disagree. X26 1000% does.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:01 PM
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I had an X25 and went with X20. I have a 6600lb lift, worked great, all hard tank ballast w more storage than the X25, towed w F150 ecoboost. Surfs great out of the box. Only problem is it doesn't meet your size requirement. I have since moved on to an X46.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:06 PM
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For what it's worth, here's a list of the top 10 from southern Surfest last month. Keep in mind these were all from people's opinions after surfing 15 minutes (riding an hour) on each boat. I'm sure people we're voting how nice the wave was not necessarily the boat (no way a Malibu is nicer than a Nautique). I pretty much agree with the list after attending, but as an owner of a 2016 x23 I wouldn't trade mine in for any of the boats there. The number one boat (Malibu 24 MXZ) had an awesome wave but I know they had extra lead in the boat and we had 7 passengers.
Top 10 boats:
(Mastercraft was not there)

I put 500 lbs of lead wake bags in my x23. When I surf by myself I like to have extra bags but 2 or more passengers the wave is sweet.
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