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Old 12-15-2008, 12:38 PM
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Over the last 15 years, I've spent at least a couple of weeks every year in Haiti. The best roads in that country are worse than those speed bump test roads. Since most of the vehicles used down there are donations from the US, I've seen a wide variety of American trucks and SUV's. Let me just observe that in the hospital and town where I work there (Pignon), they won't even accept a donation of any American-made vehicles anymore. The suspensions of Jeeps, GM's and Fords simply do not hold up. They really prize Toyotas because the engines tend to be more reliable, but they are pretty expensive so we usually end up with Mitsubishi trucks. They are by far more reliable than any US-made vehicle they've ever used down there.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:53 PM
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Over the last 15 years, I've spent at least a couple of weeks every year in Haiti. The best roads in that country are worse than those speed bump test roads. Since most of the vehicles used down there are donations from the US, I've seen a wide variety of American trucks and SUV's. Let me just observe that in the hospital and town where I work there (Pignon), they won't even accept a donation of any American-made vehicles anymore. The suspensions of Jeeps, GM's and Fords simply do not hold up. They really prize Toyotas because the engines tend to be more reliable, but they are pretty expensive so we usually end up with Mitsubishi trucks. They are by far more reliable than any US-made vehicle they've ever used down there.
Interesting...I dont really have a pony in the race on this one, but I like a parametric study as much as the next geek. These data say nothing about how the suspensions compare for non-extreme conditions (US roads). This just says that when certain components are pushed in magnitude and/or frequency, the Mitsus and Yotas hold up better.?.? It is conceivable that in a different environment, other components may or may not be running near their design thresholds. Am I reading you?
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Old 12-15-2008, 01:28 PM
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Interesting...I dont really have a pony in the race on this one, but I like a parametric study as much as the next geek. These data say nothing about how the suspensions compare for non-extreme conditions (US roads). This just says that when certain components are pushed in magnitude and/or frequency, the Mitsus and Yotas hold up better.?.? It is conceivable that in a different environment, other components may or may not be running near their design thresholds. Am I reading you?
I don't have a pony either. I drive a GM, but the central highland region of Haiti is littered with dead GM trucks and frames. Ford is not better, nor is Jeep.

Otherwise, yes. The suspensions of a Mitsubishi/Toyota probably won't last any longer on American roads (during a typical American vehicle lifespan) than a GM/Ford, but I can guarantee you that those vehicles are worlds apart in terms of durability in the third world. I suspect therefore that the concept of durability testing at the Michigan proving grounds is pretty pointless. Especially for the typical American who won't come even close to pushing their vehicle beyond its design specs.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:34 PM
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