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Old 08-25-2008, 08:01 PM
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How the slalom wakes compare at any speeds, line lengths you've experienced mainly. Seems like some are saying X 14 is much better. Do you agree? Can that be equalized at higher speeds...etc? Most interested in the 22 and 15 off lengths or so...

At 34-36 mph and 15 or 22 off, the X14 has as good or better a wake as the 197. I mentioned this before. My ski buddy said that to me. I thought he was crazy, but ran it by MYMC and he agreed. I don't know how they compare to the 209 though.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:56 PM
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At 34-36 mph and 15 or 22 off, the X14 has as good or better a wake as the 197. I mentioned this before. My ski buddy said that to me. I thought he was crazy, but ran it by MYMC and he agreed. I don't know how they compare to the 209 though.
Since I ski at 15 or 22...depending on how the wake looks...and nibble at the 33 range...sounds like either the X-7 or X-14 would come closer to what I want on slalom. I have buddies and kids that board...but I slalom..and last time I checked...I am paying the bills.

How crazy would it be to see if an MC dealer had a pre owned X-7 in stock or maybe ski school X-14 in stock.. and maybe a buyer wanting more of a wake oriented cross over like my X-9....even tho I've owned this boat ony about 5 weeks?
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:58 PM
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Not crazy at all! You have too much money invested in a boat not to have the one that best suits your needs.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:56 PM
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Not crazy at all! You have too much money invested in a boat not to have the one that best suits your needs.
I second this. My '06 X9 that I traded in on the X14 went to a ski school that traded in their X7 because they wanted a boat with a better wakeboard wake.

There's a deal to be made, it just may take some time and patience to put it together.
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I second this. My '06 X9 that I traded in on the X14 went to a ski school that traded in their X7 because they wanted a boat with a better wakeboard wake.

There's a deal to be made, it just may take some time and patience to put it together.
thanks guys for the encouragement. I worked on an X-7 this morning right in the price range, but that was a consignment boat so the dealer wasn't really involved. The ski schools should be trading in soon....so for them or for someone who prefers the boarding, the X-9 is a killer boat. I'll enjoy it til I work a deal.
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:34 PM
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At 34-36 mph and 15 or 22 off, the X14 has as good or better a wake as the 197. I mentioned this before. My ski buddy said that to me. I thought he was crazy, but ran it by MYMC and he agreed. I don't know how they compare to the 209 though.
I can't believe its better, especially when my aunt refuses to ski behind her new X14 because she can't handle the wakes (she came from a 92 PS190).
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:40 PM
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You'll love the X7. Marginal wakeboard but a killer ski boat.
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:47 PM
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I can't believe its better, especially when my aunt refuses to ski behind her new X14 because she can't handle the wakes (she came from a 92 PS190).

What speed and length? There are a lot of folks that believe the 91-94 was the holy grail of ski boats. There is a guy on my lake who has a 93 that he bought new with a ton of hours who bought an '07 197 last year. I haven't seen him break out the 93 since.

At 34 or 36 it is as good or better. Again, I told my ski buddy he must be crazy. Then had the same conversation with Mike and he said my buddy is right. Remember, I last ski'd my 197 in October and first ski'd my X14 in May.

And FWIW, another buddy of mine only ski's shortline. In the course or open water. He can run 32 or 35 consistently, but hasn't ski'd the course much in the past few years. (long story) He ski'd behind my boat Sunday (38 off open water) and was amazed. I've also got to comment that I gave him some really tight turns and can't believe how well the boat digs in. Like it is on rails. It's the hardest I've pushed it since getting it.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:09 PM
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Owned 209 & X9. Test drove X14 & X15. Now have an X2.

On wakes, agree for skiing X14 is better than X9 and within spitting distance of 197 - I free ski (no course on my lake), so I don't notice the difference. At 36 MPH, the ski wake behind my X2 is just fine. Same with the X15. I grew up skiing behind outboards though, so it's all what you're use to as someone pointed out.

On wakeboard wakes, X15 tops, followed by X2, X9, X14 & then X7. Actually bought X2 instead of X15 because I have young kids and my dealer advised me they would be intimidated by X15 wakes. Eventually I will own the X15.

On non-wake issues, I am not a big fan of the X14. Downside in my opinion is it's very cramped (think V-drive set up with an engine plopped in the middle) and they virtually eliminated the storage - other than under bow seats (worthless), you just have the space under the spotter's seat and a small space under the new seat behind the driver. No cooler either. I also think the X9 is more comfortable and a better everyday boat. X14 handles better than X9.

I do more wakeboarding than skiing now, so the X2 was the choice for me. My wife was tired of stepping over ballast bags in the X9. It's not one size fits all, which is why they have so many models - some will trade functionality for a better wake. Agree with the poster who said the guy who writes the check makes the call. Test drive and ski them - I would recommend you look at the X2 as well (it's very versitile and functional and roomy) - it's big bucks, so try them all.

In the end, I think the X15 is the best all around boat they have, it's just not as popular because no real pizzaz. Pro level wakeboard wakes and ski wakes that will work for all but the pro's. Can't wait until my son is as reckless as I am so we can get one.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:51 PM
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In the end, I think the X15 is the best all around boat they have, it's just not as popular because no real pizzaz. Pro level wakeboard wakes and ski wakes that will work for all but the pro's. Can't wait until my son is as reckless as I am so we can get one.
I'll have to sort of disagree...You forget to mention the X1, better ski wake than the X-15, lengendary wakeboard wake, good surf wake. X-15 probably has a better wakeboard wake and surf wake, but it takes more weight to get there......
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