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Old 01-31-2005, 10:17 AM
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F150 vs F250

I have been debating this for what seems like forever.
I did on my last truck also and ended up going F-150.

I have priced out a new one's equally equipped with the 5.4 Auto and the 250 is just under $2000 additional.

At this point I am sold on the F-250, if for no ther reason, I like the looks better than the newest generation F-150's.
As far as gas vs. diesel. Before the gas and fuel prices went crazy, I had it figured that it would take about 100,000 miles for the diesel to pay for itself in fuel savings. My guess is that is closer to 130,000 miles now.
As far as 5.4 V8 vs 6.8 V10, while the 360 hp of the V10 sounds tempting, they are a GAS HOG big time.

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Old 01-31-2005, 10:19 AM
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The diesel is great for towing & doing "truck stuff". For driving around town, not sure if there is a difference (other than it sure sounds cool). I do get around 15-16mpg w/the boat on the highway at speeds higher than I should mention. I think that would be better w/smaller tires (bought used w/315's, will go to 295 or 305's when I replace).

Will diesel continue to stay higher than gas is another good question. Historically, I think it is usually less. Also, you will get a lot more on resale. Look at 2 or 7 year old trucks for example...

We went with the diesel because I felt the '97 351 may be underpowered for a truck of this size, and I didn't want to pour gas into the big block 460. I do think the newer ford 5.4's have good power to them for pulling, especially if all your are towing is a 3500 pound boat. However, if you add 4 people, firewood, coolers, camping stuff, gas cans & who knows what else, the game can change.

Have fun shopping. One important thing is I think the F150 4 door only has the silly little 5 foot (or whatever) bed. To at least get to the 6-1/2 foot range, you need the 250. I think Dodge is onto something there, I have seen 1/2 ton 4 doors w/8' beds. Personal preference maybe, but when I use the truck, I like to have the space.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:38 AM
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I do tow a 7800 lb. travel trailer a couple of times a year and my current 5.4 does ok. I guess if I had the diesel, I may pull it more than a little more. Bed length dosn't matter to me. 5 1/2 is long enough, 6 1/2 adds a foot to the overall truck length, I cant imagine parallel parking in anything longer than my current supercab short bed. Although my daughter sucessfully parked it in the DOT parallel stall when praticing for her drivers test. (I don't think I could have done that)
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:29 PM
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....As far as gas vs. diesel. Before the gas and fuel prices went crazy, I had it figured that it would take about 100,000 miles for the diesel to pay for itself in fuel savings. My guess is that is closer to 130,000 miles now......
Did you figure in the MUCH higher oil change prices? I'm not sure about the 2004 models, but my 99 Powerstroke used 15 quarts of oil that still needed to be changed at 5,000 miles. To pay to change your oil, you're looking at $50.00 per change (I'm not making this number up - that's the cheapest I could find) compared to $15.00 for a typical gas v8.

Granted that cost difference greatly decreases if you do you own oil changes, but most people don't. I figured it would take 300,000 miles to pay for the diesel, which was an additional $4,000 option in '99.

I also found that in the warmer months, diesel was 10 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 octane, but 10 cents higher than 93 octane in the colder months.

The replacement to that truck for me, was a Gas truck. Much easier to work on and costs less to run than my PowerStroke.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:06 PM
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Since this thread is about tow vechicles, I saw this on Ebay and thought it should be posted here.
May be fun backing down a tight ramp.

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Old 01-31-2005, 02:13 PM
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Might not be that bad with the rear view camera.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:23 PM
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Since this thread is about tow vechicles, I saw this on Ebay and thought it should be posted here.
May be fun backing down a tight ramp.
I have a ski buddy who has a similar rig, but he tows a 23' VLX. He installed a reciever in the front bumper of the RV, which made it 1000 times easier on the smaller ramps.

Seen this baby yet?
Adrenaline Watersport's 911 rig
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:34 PM
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I am sure haveing an ambulane for a tow vehicle comes in handy at times for extreme watersports!
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM
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Hehe, not to mention the tailgate parties at the ramp. Wonder what all those cabinets are full of in that rig!
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:54 AM
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Since this thread is about tow vechicles, I saw this on Ebay and thought it should be posted here.
May be fun backing down a tight ramp.
Growing up, my family had a 33' motor home & a boat. Hitch on the front was MANDATORY for putting the boat down the ramp. As far as over the road goes, nothing could touch it.

Some day, when I grow up , I want my family to have those kind of memories. If only we hadn't gotten rid of the motor home....
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