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Old 02-08-2015, 11:39 PM
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How's the 2013 X25 w Gen2?

X25 owners, how does the 2013 X25 w Gen 2 surf? Thinking of getting an X25 and have seen a couple 2013's that look interesting. Currently surfing behind an XStar with extra ballast, the wake is ok but very short. Is the surf on the 13 just as good as the 14? How does the stock X25 w Gen 2 surf? I see others adding ballast, was hoping not to have to deal with that (although I do have a couple sacks).

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Old 02-08-2015, 11:45 PM
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theyre the same hull. so it would be the same as a 14 with gen2
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:16 AM
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This is a shot with 750lbs in the lockers and 3 people in the boat. Its no X23, but it still puts out a great surf wave.

I'm 6'1" for reference

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Old 02-09-2015, 02:53 AM
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If I understand correctly, the swim step is higher on the 14. Not sure how much that impacts the wake.

Jonb1822 That wake looks pretty sweet. I thought the whole idea of the X23 and gen2 was that you shouldn't need extra weight, just set the computer to the side you wanted to surf and go.

How does the Gen 1 compare then?
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:57 AM
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Gen 2 retrofitting a 2013 adds the same brackets as the 2014
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Old 02-09-2015, 09:20 AM
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Gen 2 uses ballast bags in the rear lockers. They fill and empty off of the same pumps that the hard tanks are using.

I think the x23 still has bags in the rear lockers, but would probably need one of the new owners on here to confirm that.

You don't have to mess with filling and emptying yourself anymore though.
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Old 02-09-2015, 09:29 AM
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Gen 2 uses ballast bags in the rear lockers. They fill and empty off of the same pumps that the hard tanks are using.

I think the x23 still has bags in the rear lockers, but would probably need one of the new owners on here to confirm that.

You don't have to mess with filling and emptying yourself anymore though.
The X23 does have bags in the rear compartments. I think that are 400s. They fit nice in the space but those are the only bags in the boat. the rest of the boat has storage throughout.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:03 AM
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I have a 14 with Gen 2.

This is a video I shot. Just me in the boat.

I have 600's in the rear lockers. All stock ballast at 100%.

I believe this was only about 70% down on the surf tab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1qZ-pXdV10
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:04 PM
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The X23 does have bags in the rear compartments. I think that are 400s. They fit nice in the space but those are the only bags in the boat. the rest of the boat has storage throughout.
Sorry, I meant the X25 with Gen 2. One of the reasons we are looking at Gen 2 is that in our current setup when someone wants to ride goofy we had to empty and fill our added ballast. Does Malibu's solution require extra ballast from what is stock? Doesn't their surf gates allow for you to switch sides with just a push of a button?

Also then what is the benefit of Gen 2 over Gen 1? The boats I have been looking at have Gen 1, is it worth the upgrade cost?
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:10 PM
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Sorry, I meant the X25 with Gen 2. One of the reasons we are looking at Gen 2 is that in our current setup when someone wants to ride goofy we had to empty and fill our added ballast. Does Malibu's solution require extra ballast from what is stock? Doesn't their surf gates allow for you to switch sides with just a push of a button?

Also then what is the benefit of Gen 2 over Gen 1? The boats I have been looking at have Gen 1, is it worth the upgrade cost?
Gen 2 allows you to switch as the push of a button. to me GEN 1 was okay as it would just roll the boat more to that side. GEN 2 actually shapes the wake and after riding an X23 I'm a firm believer that it works. With Gen 2 you weight the boat evenly so no more switching sides. GEN 2 is worth it..
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