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Old 07-13-2016, 10:31 PM
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X45 or Expand Search to Inclue X30 & Xstar?

Hi,

I have searched and read through a lot of threads and have a few questions. We sold our 2005 25' Howard Custom Bullet (basis 80 mph open bow family fun boat) since the kids are now 13 and 15 and love to wakeboard. Out with the Howard and plan to get a wakeboard boat.

Primary use will is Lake Tahoe, hence focus has only been on boats with the 8.1 (2005 - 2009) or 7.4 motor (newer boats). In addition we tend to always have 8 - 12 people who want to go out when the boat goes out, so size is important also. Finally we like to go across the lake for the day and come back and not worry about conditions, so the 24' size of the X45 seemed like a good fit.

I was 100% focused on the X45 - now thinking I should expand the search or even reconsider my focus. Question is given our use do I want to include X30 and XStar as well?

Is the 22' version of the XStar (2005 - 2006) big enough for big water and 10 people?

What is the best wake board boat overall - surfing will become of interest, but for now would be secondary to wakeboarding, tubing and an occasionaly slalom skier or barefooting.

Any input would be appreciated
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:14 PM
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I think the x45 will be a good fit. The pre 24ft xstar I think it went to 24 in 08 I spend time on a 06 and it's gets small quick. The 30 is a great boat how ever with that many people the bow may not be as benificial as you would think. I'm going from x25 great now to test driving a 16 x30 it just felt small after having a pickle fork. So I'm going for the x45 with a 6.0, which may be small for your taste in motors.
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:58 PM
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X-45 is a great boat. You can't go wrong with it, the only thing that will take time getting used to is it will top out at 42 or 45 mph. Realistically cruising speed is about 25 to 28 mph. It's going to be a far cry from what you used to have. It handles the rough water very well. I use mine on the Colorado River and at Havasu from time to time. Takes the chop well but probably not as good as your Howard.

I just came back from a weeks boating vacation and was reflecting on my boat. The Mastercraft Brand is comparable to a Porsche(almost). It's a boat for a perfectionist as the fit and finish is top notch and it is just well built boat and its performance is great for towable water sports....... but it ain't no speed boat...... this seems to be the only thing missing from these boats is top end speed but in almost every other category I feel they are the best all around boats.

BTW my good friend has your same boat 2005 and the size difference in the X45 seating and your old boat is night and day. X-45 being so much more comfortable.

Sorry if I'm running on.....
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:42 AM
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My X80 has lots of space. Can handle any day on tahoe. And still do 60mph. Has a head, and sink for those day trips. Technically 26'6" (plus swim grid) not as crazy as everyone thinks. Oh and its for sale in the classifieds
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Old 07-14-2016, 03:11 AM
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The X-30 doesn't handle chop that well. As the previous poster said an x-80 and include the X-55 in your search. Skiing won't be great behind any of the boats we are talking about.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:08 AM
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2013 is first year for 24' xstar. It would do everything you want. 2011 and earlier would be tight and not great on chop. Also 2004-2011 xstar doesn't surf all that great.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:04 AM
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03-11 xstar isn't an option for you, especially in rough water/surfing. Stick with an x45 or x46
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:24 AM
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2013 is first year for 24' xstar. It would do everything you want. 2011 and earlier would be tight and not great on chop. Also 2004-2011 xstar doesn't surf all that great.
This and what willyt said, I had a 2008 X-star HATED the lack of room in the cockpit. I had just come from 2006 X 15 and there was a full foot or more out of the cockpit, the extra was in the nose and not good on big water.

I don't like the 45 to me that thing noses down like the 03-11 Star hull.

The new Xstar Hull for Wakeboard, is AWESOME. I have only have it 1/2 full, exception of one time when a buddy was driving and loaded ALL.... that wake board wake was HUGE. I went in, and decided to head back out and evaluate my approach again.


I can sell you a nice 2013 though..... with 7.4 low hours (50ish)..... just sayin

I do love the room and options of the 13 Xstar. ( I feel I should insert a cheesy sales line here?)

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Old 07-14-2016, 11:25 AM
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03-11 xstar isn't an option for you, especially in rough water/surfing. Stick with an x45 or x46
Gen II on the new star hull makes is a pretty good option for surf.... trust me I spent $9800 to find out.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:58 PM
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X-45 is a great boat. You can't go wrong with it, the only thing that will take time getting used to is it will top out at 42 or 45 mph. Realistically cruising speed is about 25 to 28 mph. It's going to be a far cry from what you used to have. It handles the rough water very well. I use mine on the Colorado River and at Havasu from time to time. Takes the chop well but probably not as good as your Howard.

I just came back from a weeks boating vacation and was reflecting on my boat. The Mastercraft Brand is comparable to a Porsche(almost). It's a boat for a perfectionist as the fit and finish is top notch and it is just well built boat and its performance is great for towable water sports....... but it ain't no speed boat...... this seems to be the only thing missing from these boats is top end speed but in almost every other category I feel they are the best all around boats.

BTW my good friend has your same boat 2005 and the size difference in the X45 seating and your old boat is night and day. X-45 being so much more comfortable.

Sorry if I'm running on.....
Thanks - love the Porsche Reference - it is more like a Panamera Turbo than a GT car!
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