wakeboarders ... shoreline

For the retired gang I'm sure every boat other than their pontoon is a problem.

Atlftr; Does your lake have an active neighborhood association? Can this be discussed there?

[atlfootr]

Originally Posted by teddy

When wakeboarders get banned who's next to be banned? I think education and respect are the better approach.

Wakeboarders are no different than slalom or trick skiers or barefooters they want smooth water to ride on.

Well Mr. Teddy,

When it's your shoreline that get's washed away from repeated wave errosion , one day you'll understand.

[mitch]

Can you show pics of the actual 'damage'? all I see are rollers, geez, I've never seen those on a lake. Before and after pics would be great. You'll see some erosion on our lake, but at least on my lake, it's tends to repair itself. My shoreline shows no permanent damage in the 9 years I've been on my lake, and it gets frieking busy as he(( on the weekends. It's mostly wally's and the fata$$'s sitting on top of their bayliners seats going 8 mph 80ft from shore that cause the most churn, but I don't HATE em, or the slalom guys and and footers that blast by our place at 6AM EVERY frieking DAY during the season, up to 44mph, screaming when they fall etc. We all have to get along, eh? *and* we're lucky as he(( to be on the water, right? Looking forward to the before and after pics of all the 'damage' Not bashing, but I dislike seeing someone hatin' and painting with such a broad brush.
BTW, we're a mostly slalom family. 70/30

[rstitson]

My son needs relatively smooth water to wakeboard. We don't own lakeside property but attempt to respect shore owners... My parents and my wifes parents both had camps on lakes,so both of us grew up on lakes, and had to deal with wave action on the shoreline. Don't remember either of them loosing part of their dock to it or any significant erosion. I do have an issue with shore owner believing they own the lake unless it is completely manmade as far as I am concerned water is a common resource generally starting in the mountains and ending in the ocean.

[TX.X-30 fan]

Originally Posted by Mitch

Can you show pics of the actual 'damage'? all I see are rollers, geez, I've never seen those on a lake. Before and after pics would be great. You'll see some erosion on our lake, but at least on my lake, it's tends to repair itself. My shoreline shows no permanent damage in the 9 years I've been on my lake, and it gets frieking busy as he(( on the weekends. It's mostly Wally's and the fates sitting on top of their bayliners seats going 8 mph 80ft from shore that cause the most churn, but I don't HATE em, or the slalom guys and and footers that blast by our place at 6AM EVERY freaking DAY during the season, up to 44mph, screaming when they fall etc. We all have to get along, eh? *and* we're lucky as he(( to be on the water, right? Looking forward to the before and after pics of all the 'damage' Not bashing, but I dislike seeing someone hating' and painting with such a broad brush.
BTW, we're a mostly slalom family. 70/30

Very well stated Mitch everyone loves to hate wakeboarders. If my property was being damaged so severely by boat traffic I would invest in a bulkhead and sit out back and enjoy a cold beer watching the boarders trying to break their necks.

( All boats moving through the water create wake )

[Farmer Ted]

Originally Posted by atlfootr

I'm back and here's how it went down.

Considering there were 5-7 ppl on the boat our conversation went fairly smoothly.
After the rider went down and the boat went into idel, retriving the skier - nearly in front of me
I asked him why he was in so close to our docks.

He replied, "It's the only smooth place on the lake".
I said, "but dude you got the whole side of the lake to run on"!

He said, "everywhere else was to rough and that the rider would be hurt".
I said. "that's the kinda sport you can do in any kind of water condition, if your that good".

As much as I hate to say this,,,,,you need to buy a jet-ski for times like this.

When guys like this show up, take the opportunity to jump their wakes with your jet-ski or you could go out on the jet ski and work on your bat turns or perfect your looping figure eights.....

[TX.X-30 fan]

Originally Posted by atlfootr

Well Mr. Teddy,

When it's your shoreline that gets washed away from repeated wave erosion , one day you'll understand.

Look at Mr Teddy's profile (not a boarder) he makes a great point and nothing he said should have provoked such a tasteless response IMHO.


( east tx. may be right after all )

[jimmer2880]

I hate ALL people who buzz the docks. Many of whom are big fat oafs sitting on the gunnel while driving doing 7 mph 15' off the docks. Fortunately, wakeboarders aren't in the majority of offenders where I'm at.

Now that my rant is finished, you should really start looking at shoreline prevention because the waves will always be there. You'll never stop even 1/2 of the offenders. The individuals in our club have been putting stones on our shoreline for the past 20 years (do it once for your area & you're done for generations). Where we are, floods (especially the winter ones with ice chunks) will remove 20' of shoreline at a time if everything aligns right. Without lining the shoreline of the river with 5" to 10" rocks, we wouldn't have 1/2 the bank we have now.

[mitch]

Originally Posted by Farmer Ted

As much as I hate to say this,,,,,you need to buy a jet-ski for times like this.

When guys like this show up, take the opportunity to jump their wakes with your jet-ski or you could go out on the jet ski and work on your bat turns or perfect your looping figure eights.....

Jet-Ski? Tim, pull yourself together man

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by TX.X-30 fan

Look at Mr Teddy's profile (not a boarder) he makes a great point and nothing he said should have provoked such a tasteless response IMHO.


( east tx. may be right after all )

Sometimes folks read too much into posts.....I read the second sentence as fun sarchasm more than a serious statement.

I will agree that the typical wally weekend will create as much or more churn than a wakeboard boat. I don't believe in making rules/laws to ban boats or set ski hours....as someone else said, what's next, banning ski boats, etc.

However, there is something to be said for having a calm discussion with folks to educate them on the problems and dangers caused by being too close to docks and shores, and general courtesy on the lakes we all enjoy.

The lake we use has no lake hours and we are very careful to be quiet and courteous to others enjoying the lake early in the morning when we're out enjoying the quiet glass. Through mis-haps, at times we've gotten closer than necessary to docks or boats (call it <100ft) and ALWAYS go back to appologize. Most folks are very receptive and we've made lots of friends this way. Most of them honk their horns/wave/cheer/raise their beers when we're footin' bye at dawn or dusk.