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Old 01-04-2007, 11:01 AM
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so, how is this one? (SanJuan - how about an UMP group buy?)


18V Compact Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/2" Driver Drill Kit

Model BDF452HW


Lithium-Ion battery with the best power-to-weight ratio at 450 in. lbs. of torque and weighing only 3.5 lbs.
  • Makita built, 4-pole maximum torque motor delivers 450 in. lbs. of efficient torque in a compact size
  • More compact design at only 8” long and weighs only 3.5 lbs. for less operator fatigue
  • Batteries charge 4X faster in only 15 minutes
  • Ergonomic shape fits like a glove with even pressure and easy control
  • Makita Lithium-Ion provides longer run time, 5x lower self-discharge (for use any time) &16 firm holding contact terminals (for constant high power)
  • 15-minute Rapid Optimum Charger and battery communicates throughout the charging process using the built-in chip in the battery and built-in CPU chip in the charger. The Charger also uses "Active 3 Control" for current control, thermal control & voltage control
  • 15-minute Rapid Optimum Charger has a built-in fan to cool the battery to produce more lifetime work
  • Built-in LED light illuminates the work area
  • Accepts all Lithium-Ion slide-style batteries
  • 3-year warranty on tool and 1-year warranty on battery
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:06 AM
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Sorry wft but I have a makita that's nearly 20years old.

If I may make a comment and ask a question here without being accused of adding value to this website, then I shall.

First I have not met a battery operated 1/2" drill motor and cannot imagine it can do the job a 1/2" drill motor is expected to do...

Question, my 20yr old makita is the coolest cordless in the world.
It's small framed, 3/8", and the battery is built-in with simply a receptacle for the charger cord. It gets better... this drill is FULLY variable speed (forw & rev) AND has a brake on the spindle...

If anyone can tell me where I can go today and get a cordless drill with a brake and a reversible TRUE VARIABLE SPEED rechargeable, reversible 3/8, I'd buy it. period.

anyone? anyone?
(and don't link me some redneck 3 speed drill or something with a switch to change speeds, I am talking VARIABLE speed AND a brake to stop the spindle on a dime and give me 9cents change! This thing never strips a screw head or gets you in trouble drilling through sheet or fiberglas)

ok now back to my regularly scheduled posts about nothing....

Here ya go Ric!

http://www.makita.com/menu.php?pg=pr...t&tag=6343DWDE

Or the above posted by Pendo
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:14 AM
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:19 AM
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Here ya go Ric!

http://www.makita.com/menu.php?pg=pr...t&tag=6343DWDE

Or the above posted by Pendo
naahhhhh, how can I be sure that either of those "2speed variable speed" makitas are true "variable speed" and do either of them have the spindle brake?
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:22 AM
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Cause now they call it an electric brake!

http://www.makita.com/assets_product...uals/6343d.pdf

And if by variable you mean the amount of pressure applied to the trigger = speed then thats what that drill is doing in my hands now as I pull the trigger.

Just ribbin' ya!
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:25 AM
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naahhhhh, how can I be sure that either of those "2speed variable speed" makitas are true "variable speed" and do either of them have the spindle brake?
All my 12,16.8 and 18 volts Craftsman had those features and pretty sure all cordless drills have them now too.
You should keep your valuable comments on waterski and boats topics!


Using a new Bosh 24 volts ,1/2 inch ,hammer for concrete and yes Ric it's variable speed both on hi-low range,reverse /forward mode.
Gotta brake on the chuck too!
The thing got a ton of torque and long lasting batteries BUT pretty heavy and not easy to handle when your arm is stretch on top of a ladder.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:31 AM
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for real? I bought some for the shop here a year or so ago and was surprised at how many were still NOT true vaiable speed and didn't have a spindle brake
Given, I was at Home Depot, but still I figured if I looked hard enough, there would be an expensive model with these features...
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:59 AM
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I need to post a picture of this little gem. It's not 1/2" drill and does not pretend to be, but with good batteries it's so torquey, you can nearly not stop the chuck with your hand
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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I recenty bought a Hitachi drill as part of a 4 piece combo set - at Lowes. Rebate was sent for "free" jigsaw. One of the best purchases I have made- with all of the home improvement projects I've got going. Got a card from Hitachi the other day that tells me I can now buy lithium batteries and they will work in my tools - I have th NI-CD batteries which are heavier.
What it comes down to is - how are you intending to use the drill - I would spend some money up front to get better quality.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:31 PM
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1/2" chucks are usually in the 18V and higher crowd. I have an 18V Milwaukee hammer drill and I have used it for a lot of 2-9/16" holes, using the self-boring bits going through floors, framing and sheet goods. It comes with a handle so I won't snap my wrists like a twig and the first day I used it on the job, I didn't even use a second battery and it was cold. The 28V Milwaukee is even better, lighter and when I picked my 18V up from my friend at Milwaukee Tool, I saw two 2x12s leaning against the engineering building at the plant. I counted 66 holes in each and asked about them. One battery each, non-stop with the 28V, but they weren't available yet.

However, I have had a bunch of Makita drills and replaced one part, with one switch that needs to be replaced. Other than batteries, that's all and I used them hard, all the time and dropped them on all kinds of surfaces, even concrete.
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