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Old 09-06-2017, 12:04 AM
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Bow looks really low at idle speeds in the video. Seems like you would swamp the boat if your surfing on a busy lake. Curious to hear about that from your demo.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:11 AM
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Some pics of full ballast and no ballast please.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:31 AM
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Bow looks really low at idle speeds in the video. Seems like you would swamp the boat if your surfing on a busy lake. Curious to hear about that from your demo.
my thought too, my 13 star has always stayed dry in the bow, other than once where a roller and my angle put a decent amount of water in my bow
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:26 AM
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It seems like no one has really commented or asked about the quick fill ballast system yet! This is huge in my mind in order to be able to fill 3200 or 4100# in only 4min!! I'm curious to know how they've made this work - a copy of Ram fill or something all new?!
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:36 AM
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It seems like no one has really commented or asked about the quick fill ballast system yet! This is huge in my mind in order to be able to fill 3200 or 4100# in only 4min!! I'm curious to know how they've made this work - a copy of Ram fill or something all new?!


Under 3 minutes.

8 ballast king pumps. Apparently.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:43 AM
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8.35lbs per gallon. Thus making it 502.9 gallons. Kings move 960g/hr. Multiply that by 8 = 7680g/hr. Which is 128g/minute.

That math makes sense under 4 Minites but all the statements are under 3. Must be a variable I am not aware of. Or my math is off.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:58 AM
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They are using something different according to my math.... Water weighs about 8.25lbs per gallon. if there is 4100lbs of ballast, with 3 minutes of run time, it would take 11 pumps assuming NO loss on the Ballast Kings. Which I don't think would be the case. the 15 GPM rating on those is in perfect conditions.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:50 PM
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Under 3 minutes.

8 ballast king pumps. Apparently.
30 GPM pumps. Two for each tank.

I wakeboarded with no ballast, then intermediate, then advanced all in one set without dropping the rope because they fill so fast
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:52 PM
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At 2 dollars above whatever the gas in your car costs its a valid question to ask for some.


Disagree.

Let's say it burns 1 gallon/hour more than a different boat of similar features and you average 100 hours per year that's an additional 100 gallons or maybe $300 per year fuel costs.

If this boat is #1 on your list and you go to #2 because of the $300/year additional fuel costs than you probably shouldn't own a 200K wake boat.

The concept of shopping the top wake boats in the world at 200K and having fuel efficiency anywhere near the top of the want list is ridiculous. I'm guessing the G's, Stars, etc...aren't more than 1gph plus or minus each other anyways...
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:55 PM
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I agree, gas is a big expense. Especially if friends don't contribute. However, I would argue that loan interest (or opportunity) cost of $200K is your largest annual expense.


Good point, many people finance these boys for 20 years at 5 points or better. Easy math, or, 200K invested can easily yield 3.5%/year.

Gas will be an expense regardless, you bees to calculate the difference in fuel efficiency. Small potatoes.
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