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Old 07-22-2018, 05:24 PM
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Pulling barefooter with 94 ProStar 190

What is the feasibility of pulling a single barefooter on two feet on a long line with a 94 ProStar 190 with 350 TBI and an Acme 541 prop that is topping out at 41 mph with two occupants and nothing being towed? Not sure what the top speed would be with a barefooter behind this boat, but I'm guessing upper 30s. Have you done this or something similar?

If the speed required guideline of (Weight / 10) + 20 is valid, I'm thinking it might be a borderline thing depending on skier weight and maybe start method. What do you think?
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:41 PM
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No problem! Just run it WFO and your footer will be fine so long as they aren’t 300 lbs!

I had a ‘95 PS205 wth same motor and pulled my 210+lb brother longline at 40+MPH.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:45 PM
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How are you measuring speed? With a 541 I'd bet it will pull 43 - either way at those speeds you are into user preference some footers want more
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:14 PM
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Measured with Garmin GPS out of my truck in low wind. Same into and away from wind. Yeah, 43 is the spec in the manual. I would think the 541 would do at least what the stock prop did. I've spent quite a bit of time looking for issues. There's a long thread on here where I involved JimN and EngineNut and others when I was looking at the RPMs at WOT. Looked at a lot of stuff. Only thing I've found is No. 7 is lower on compression than the other cylinders. How significantly depends on whose criteria you use, but the No. 7 plug looks good and the engine sounds good. My auto mechanic, who is good, tells me not to worry about it.
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:07 PM
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No problem! Just run it WFO and your footer will be fine so long as they aren’t 300 lbs!

I had a ‘95 PS205 wth same motor and pulled my 210+lb brother longline at 40+MPH.
Where was the line attached to the boat?
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:32 PM
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Where was the line attached to the boat?
Pylon.

Works better off a tower but didn’t have on my PS 205.
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:13 AM
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Pylon.

Works better off a tower but didn’t have on my PS 205.
Works better how?
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:13 AM
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Works better how?
The upward pull from a tower or extended pylon makes it easier to stand up if deep water starting and also helps reduce pressure on the feet.
A “no stretch” rope like used for wake boarding is best, just needs to be 90-100’ long.
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:16 AM
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Boat and engine are likely OK. That 541 is a 13x12.... Right? I have a 13x11 CNC on my 1993 205, granted my 351ho has a few more HP, it'll top out at about 45mph. Last night on our way back to the dock, I set pp on 40mph just to see how it would handle it with four adults and it was a breeze. Turned 4200 rpms and didn't seem to be in a strain at all. I've never footed long line behind this boat, but I have off the boom. Once with 6 adults and it had no issue holding 40mph.

I'm just thinking a little less pitch on the prop will help you if you'd like to have a few more mph. On the other hand, heck 38mph should be more than enough. I learned to foot at 36mph and I'm 200lb. I thought I was going faster in my old boat. Lol.
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Measured with Garmin GPS out of my truck in low wind. Same into and away from wind. Yeah, 43 is the spec in the manual. I would think the 541 would do at least what the stock prop did. I've spent quite a bit of time looking for issues. There's a long thread on here where I involved JimN and EngineNut and others when I was looking at the RPMs at WOT. Looked at a lot of stuff. Only thing I've found is No. 7 is lower on compression than the other cylinders. How significantly depends on whose criteria you use, but the No. 7 plug looks good and the engine sounds good. My auto mechanic, who is good, tells me not to worry about it.
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:17 AM
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The upward pull from a tower or extended pylon makes it easier to stand up if deep water starting and also helps reduce pressure on the feet.
A “no stretch” rope like used for wake boardin
g is best, just needs to be 90-100’ long.
How much does that upward force component on the pull from the rope reduce the required speed? Are there other reasons barefooters are using an elevated attachment point?

I last barefooted the summer I learned in 1977 on a small v-hull with a 65 hp Mercury outboard. The line was attached to a harness attached to the transom eyes, so the attachment was a little lower than my hands so I guess I got a slight downward pull. When I got the ProStar in 2013 and started returning to skiing after decades, the ski pylon was increased elevation compared to my childhood skiing. Now were are talking fly-highs and towers, and others use bars, none of which I have currently. All new stuff to me. Thinking about all of it.
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