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Old 04-10-2014, 01:41 PM
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This was when I was so happy making all of the new changes to my boat.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:43 PM
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This is when all of the wind was taken out of my sails. Very sickening feeling. Trust me
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:48 PM
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Let me be the first to warn you.... I speak from experience.

Do NOT run that engine hard until you put at least another 50 hours on it. Break in on a new motor is pretty fast. On that old motor I would baby her for at least a summer. The bottom end is not used to the higher performance parts and the compression change. A spun rod bearing can leave you replacing the entire engine.

When mine let go, my cam was in about 7 pieces, my distributor shaft was so bent that I had to use a 4' pry bar to get the distributor out of the block, the wrist pin on the rod twisted the bottom part of the piston off and shoved it up into the head bending the valves, the rod now rotating at 5,000 rpm beat the heck out of the cylinder walls cracking and scaring them, finally letting go with a big hole in the block where the deck and the oil pan meet about the size of your fist.

Oil was everywhere, I was speechless and ready for an entire bottle of tequila.

If you're on a budget just be real careful with the bottom end. Personally if I were you and if you were maxed out on the $$$ your boss lady will allow you to spend. Pull the engine, put new bearings and rings in it, and home it with a honing tool for a drill to clean up the walls. It would be prolly $100 more and yes extra time but you will be better off.

Ideally you would have the block line bored and new .030 pistons thrown in. $1200 ish

But that is just me.

I've done exactly what you're doing and lost my engine. Then had to build another from scratch.

Thanks for the heads up that sucks to hear about your situation. I'll do some checking in on the rings and bearings but the bore and pistons are definitely out of the question. I saw where you also did a few extra upgrades to your motor i.e. the cam do you think those extra upgrades could have attributed to the malfunction? I consider myself mechanically inclined but by no means do I consider myself to be knowledgeable on the subject.
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:47 PM
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Before changing my career to having my insurance agency, I was an ASE certified tech for Cadillac. This being said, my specs were in tolerance. I tried to stay on budget and boy did I eventually go over. Just sayin. It's your boat and your cash, but I would never do it again without doing the bottom end as well. But that is my personal choice. I just would hate to watch a rerun of my scattering.
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Old 04-10-2014, 10:16 PM
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Before changing my career to having my insurance agency, I was an ASE certified tech for Cadillac. This being said, my specs were in tolerance. I tried to stay on budget and boy did I eventually go over. Just sayin. It's your boat and your cash, but I would never do it again without doing the bottom end as well. But that is my personal choice. I just would hate to watch a rerun of my scattering.
Thanks for letting me know I really appreciate it but I'll have to do what I can afford and I'll be sure to take it easy I wish I had the money to do it right, and it really seemed like from all my research I was. Had I known ahead of time or had I not had 2k dollars of fiberglass work done I would have done it that way. I just hadn't read of any problems with it until your event. I'll definitely baby it I've never been one to just get on it or run it full throttle but I'll take extra precaution pray for the best.
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Old 04-10-2014, 10:18 PM
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On a side note I see you are in Fort Worth I actually bought from there haha!
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:12 AM
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Do what you can afford to do and baby her. Mine broke at WOT 5000 rpm.

Once you put some time on it you should be fine. You will very much enjoy it. Put the performer intake on it . It is a very nice addition.

Feel free to post up questions, I've built my boat, phntmski, TxsRiverRat, and many other marine engines including a few big boy 572ci engines pushing up to 980hp. Let me know if you get hung up on something. I'm more than willing to give an opinion or idea.

Trbenj has a Nautique that flat out hauls ars. He's another guy with upgraded 351's.

Oh btw....keep this from the wife, but you will more than likely need to re prop it. You will turn the factory prop way harder than you have been. You will have about 100hp more. If you wanna do a budget prop then either save couch coins or worse case take your prop and have some cup put in it.
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:27 AM
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Do what you can afford to do and baby her. Mine broke at WOT 5000 rpm.

Once you put some time on it you should be fine. You will very much enjoy it. Put the performer intake on it . It is a very nice addition.

Feel free to post up questions, I've built my boat, phntmski, TxsRiverRat, and many other marine engines including a few big boy 572ci engines pushing up to 980hp. Let me know if you get hung up on something. I'm more than willing to give an opinion or idea.

Trbenj has a Nautique that flat out hauls ars. He's another guy with upgraded 351's.

Oh btw....keep this from the wife, but you will more than likely need to re prop it. You will turn the factory prop way harder than you have been. You will have about 100hp more. If you wanna do a budget prop then either save couch coins or worse case take your prop and have some cup put in it.
Well I do have the powerslot trans my stock motor won't get to 5000 rpm would it get there after the upgrades? And my prop is actually the 4 blade acme 351 if I remember right I have the stock one as a spare. But sounds great thank you for all the advice and help.
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:39 AM
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100 hp out of p- heads and a performer intake with no other changes not likely, 40 ish hp is more likely... What you will have is an engine that works easier, has better fuel economy and smoother throttle response. My 2 cents...
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:20 AM
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I actually looked up and Edelbrock said on their site about 5hp and 10 ft lbs of torque increase with the intake manifold. And really in a boat isn't it the torque that does most everything? It's towing not racing. The only info I found as far as a combo between the two was in an automotive forum and a guy had a 351w with the performer rpm heads and intake setup everything else was stock and he was getting 310 to the rear wheels on dyno still no hard numbers but I don't see me breaking 300 hp with my setup.

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