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Old 10-31-2015, 01:06 AM
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Old 10-31-2015, 03:28 AM
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You definitely put the pulling power , torque and Mpgs to the test. That truck looks exceptional. Just traded in the wife's FJ for a 4 runner last year. Really wanted the 4Runner TRD but couldn't get my hands on one. I myself am pushing to add a Tacoma to our arsenal as well. I love the new look and the reemergence of the smaller truck. They look way better and perform way better than the old Rangers and S10's.........not to rain on the love fest but a few points need to be made here.


Did you happen to hard swerve, lock the brakes at 60, make an emergency avoidance move, hit the heated up brakes few times coming out of the down grade? Any car, truck , or toy can tow something above its tow capacity.......... , what counts is how that vehicle can handle the load in a stopping/emergency situation when you need it. Your 30 will push that thing around like a yugo in an emergency situation. I know you bought it as a secondary tow vehicle, and I can appreciate all the stats and the time you took to lay it out, but at the end of the day anyone who buys this truck as a tow vehicle for a rig that big, at those speeds and distance is a danger to everyone else on the road. I'd love to see the scale readout on that combo. Going a few miles to the launch ramp is one thing, but hitting the highway at 65mph fully loaded up is another.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:31 AM
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thats terrifying.... yoiks
This was exactly what I was thinking. Guess I could try and hook my gooseneck up to my wrangler somehow and see if it would pull it, put myself and a lot of other people in harm's way
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A couple of thoughts..

1. Dangerous for you and everyone on the road with you.

2. No break-in period on the new truck?

3. I bet your insurance company would push back hard if you got in an accident towing a boat that weighs more than the truck is rated to tow. You are opening yourself up for a lawsuit if you do get in an accident.

Seems worth it though.

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Old 10-31-2015, 10:33 AM
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Should have just bought a Tundra...

All you've got there is a 4runner without a trunk or 3rd row. That's incredibly dangerous.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:45 AM
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You definitely put the pulling power , torque and Mpgs to the test. That truck looks exceptional. Just traded in the wife's FJ for a 4 runner last year. Really wanted the 4Runner TRD but couldn't get my hands on one. I myself am pushing to add a Tacoma to our arsenal as well. I love the new look and the reemergence of the smaller truck. They look way better and perform way better than the old Rangers and S10's.........not to rain on the love fest but a few points need to be made here.


Did you happen to hard swerve, lock the brakes at 60, make an emergency avoidance move, hit the heated up brakes few times coming out of the down grade? Any car, truck , or toy can tow something above its tow capacity.......... , what counts is how that vehicle can handle the load in a stopping/emergency situation when you need it. Your 30 will push that thing around like a yugo in an emergency situation. I know you bought it as a secondary tow vehicle, and I can appreciate all the stats and the time you took to lay it out, but at the end of the day anyone who buys this truck as a tow vehicle for a rig that big, at those speeds and distance is a danger to everyone else on the road. I'd love to see the scale readout on that combo. Going a few miles to the launch ramp is one thing, but hitting the highway at 65mph fully loaded up is another.
Agreed - its all about handling the load Not just pulling it.
With in reason and safety I tried those maneuvers as you mentioned.
- I did have my boat and new truck to consider wrecking. Lol

My trailer brakes did there job every time, so the truck seemed unstressed.
Had a long freeway grade at 65 to a downhill exit. The brakes fared well.
Backroad sharp curves and random brake and swerve patterns felt the same as my full size
Tundra and Sequoia.
The extreme pulling power was not there it you really wanted it.
But you could easily tow at legal Towing speeds.

It's no 1/2 ton. But I will seldom ask it to be.
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Should have just bought a Tundra...

All you've got there is a 4runner without a trunk or 3rd row. That's incredibly dangerous.
If you read my post. I have a proper tow rig.
This a daily light work truck for times where my Jetta diesel wagon won't cut it.
With out the 500 lbs of lead in the boat. It would be on point and within limits.
Throwing words like "incredibly dangerous " are hardly accurate while staying within a mfg rating.

I am going to get the whole thing weighed so I can make sure I am within those limits
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Old 10-31-2015, 11:17 AM
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If you read my post. I have a proper tow rig.
This a daily light work truck for times where my Jetta diesel wagon won't cut it.
With out the 500 lbs of lead in the boat. It would be on point and within limits.
Throwing words like "incredibly dangerous " are hardly accurate while staying within a mfg rating.

I am going to get the whole thing weighed so I can make sure I am within those limits
I bet your trailer is closer to 1200 lbs..
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Old 10-31-2015, 11:27 AM
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If you read my post. I have a proper tow rig.
This a daily light work truck for times where my Jetta diesel wagon won't cut it.
With out the 500 lbs of lead in the boat. It would be on point and within limits.
Throwing words like "incredibly dangerous " are hardly accurate while staying within a mfg rating.

I am going to get the whole thing weighed so I can make sure I am within those limits
Based on your numbers, it is incredibly dangerous.

Your trucks tow rating is actually 6400lbs.
Your trucks GVWR is 5600lbs
Your trucks GCWR is 11,360
Your trucks curb weight is 4480lbs
You estimate your boat with all weight is 6750lbs.

So... your truck itself already accounts for 4480lbs of it's GVWR. That leaves you an extra 1,120 lbs of weight in the truck. Put you as the driver in there, and we'll say that goes down to 920 assuming you're a 200lb dude. So now just you and your truck take up 4680lb's of your GCWR. 11,360 - 4680 = 6,680lbs left over for your boat, all your gear, any other passengers, etc. Your boat takes up ~6750 of that. So you're now 70lbs overweight just having you, your truck, and your boat. No luggage, no extra passengers, nothing. Regardless of where your 500lbs of lead is, unless it's at home in your garage, it still adds to your GCWR. I haven't even gotten into tongue weight.

Now that we've established you're actually towing over your vehicles capabilities, you also have to consider that most would refer to an 80% rule for safety. So while you technically COULD pull all the way up to your max capacities, keep it at 80% of that gives you some room for error in emergency situations, going up steep grades, etc.

Look... do what you want, but you're not towing within that trucks limits unless you'v vastly overestimated your boats weight. If it's anywhere close to your estimate, the second you put anyone else in your truck to go anywhere with their luggage, boards, food, cooler, etc, you're WAY over anything that would be considered safe. That thing really shouldn't be hooked up to anything that is rated for less than 9600lbs. My humble opinion of course.

All info pulled from the Toyota brochure:
http://www.toyota.com/content/ebroch..._ebrochure.pdf
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