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Old 11-20-2017, 03:38 PM
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Now Honda is making aircraft? OMG. I'm sure these will be perceived as much better than our domestic planes. So starts the downfall of our aircraft makers. The inevitable downward spiral of our aircraft industry because "if it's Asian made, it must be better". So sad.
They are actually built down in Greensboro North Carolina if that makes you feel better.
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Old 11-20-2017, 03:53 PM
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Where is the main headquarters of Honda? Where does the money go? Heck, Ford might have a factory in Japan, but is it a foreign or domestic product?
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:16 PM
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Where is the main headquarters of Honda? Where does the money go? Heck, Ford might have a factory in Japan, but is it a foreign or domestic product?
I canít argue with the Honda headquarters being Japan, the HondaJet headquarters is in North Carolina. The design is Japanese which was then developed built and tested here in the US. As for the money, Iím ok with 1500+ people being employed in the US. So while it isnít titled as ďdomesticĒ Iím ok with that fact that most of the work for this program was done in the states (even though I personally think they are ugly as sin).
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I would rather those same 1500 people were employed by lets say, Cessna, and they would be if people in this country would only buy American aircraft. The demand would be higher for Cessna's, so consequently they would have to hire those 1,500 aircraft workers in order to meet the request for the needed planes. Same for any former USA produced product that is now made in China, Japan, Mexico, etc.
All this is an exercise in frustration, most of you folks will continue to buy foreign, and think you are really being smart, and that you got a heck of a deal, while this country has almost no heavy industry left, it's all being made somewhere else. If we ever got into a real declared world war we would be screwed, there is hardly a vestige of our former industrial strength, all has been given away in the name of lower production cost, higher profit margin, and a meddling EPA which will eventually drive this country into the ground.
Enough said, I'm out.

By the way those are cool photoshopped pics of the gent in the commercial jet!

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Old 11-20-2017, 05:13 PM
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Enough said, I'm out.
That's not how this works, now we get to troll you.

Top ten "produced" cars in the USA, 4 of those are foreign brands. Out of alllllll of the USA car models, they don't even hold the top spots for this, almost half are foreign.

So you think because you buy an American branded automobile that it's actually American made? Or rather it's American assembled.

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Old 11-20-2017, 09:12 PM
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That's not how this works, now we get to troll you.

Top ten "produced" cars in the USA, 4 of those are foreign brands. Out of alllllll of the USA car models, they don't even hold the top spots for this, almost half are foreign.

So you think because you buy an American branded automobile that it's actually American made? Or rather it's American assembled.

Vomit.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:18 AM
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I would rather those same 1500 people were employed by lets say, Cessna, and they would be if people in this country would only buy American aircraft.
Really? Cessna built just under 500 Citation Mustangs (similar size), Honda built 53 of their jets. Cessna wins mostly due to not having the 10+ years of problems the Honda Jet has endured. How is Honda stealing the market here? And how many of the Honda Jets are being built strictly for the American market? You think aircraft built domestically are all sold domestically? Maybe another American base for a player in the $4M jet game is good for the economy, assuming, you know, not all people who buy business class jets are American citizens...
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:09 AM
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Really? Cessna built just under 500 Citation Mustangs (similar size), Honda built 53 of their jets. Cessna wins mostly due to not having the 10+ years of problems the Honda Jet has endured. How is Honda stealing the market here? And how many of the Honda Jets are being built strictly for the American market? You think aircraft built domestically are all sold domestically? Maybe another American base for a player in the $4M jet game is good for the economy, assuming, you know, not all people who buy business class jets are American citizens...
I couldnít agree more. Frankly Iíll be interested to see if Honda can hang in there. They spent a ton of money to bring this jet to market and with the relatively low production volumes itís going to take a long time before they start to see any real money. Fortunately for them the new airplane market is up relatively speaking at this time.
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