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Old 04-06-2017, 01:27 PM
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so the 3.42 is what i should be looking at with the 3.55 in 2nd place????

currently tow a bunch of stuff. My MC is a 2006 X2, but i have a 21 pontoon, 4 place snowmobile trailer with 4 sleds, and a 19' bass boat and 4 place ATV trailer. All over the map.

80% of the time we don't tow but travel with the vehicle. But when we do tow we tow if that makes sense. Looking for a good balanced approach.
If you go with a GM, I would get the 3.42 and with the Ford get the 3.55.
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Old 04-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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awesome, thanks for sharing your insight on this. Appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-09-2017, 07:51 AM
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would you suggest the 3.55 for all around? looking at the new Expedition or the Tahoe with the 5.3.
With transmissions having 8 and (an outrageous) 10 speeds now, the rear gears are playing a much smaller role in your drive ability both towing and non towing.

In a vehicle with a 4-speed, they were a huge factor. Now, for the average guy hauling his boat, it really doesn't matter.

My Grand Cherokee with the proper HEMI V8 and the ZF 8-Speed is damn quick, and the rear gears are 3.45.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:57 PM
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Actually, final drive ratios aren't changing that much regardless of transmission. Lower ratio rear ends will always tow better than higher ratios.

With 6,8,10 speed transmissions, an engine with greater TQ in lower rpm will allow the transmission to work as designed and achieve better fuel economy.

Of course, if you plan to change wheels/tires and lift the truck, account for that when considering a engine/tranny combo.
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:10 PM
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With transmissions having 8 and (an outrageous) 10 speeds now, the rear gears are playing a much smaller role in your drive ability both towing and non towing.

In a vehicle with a 4-speed, they were a huge factor. Now, for the average guy hauling his boat, it really doesn't matter.

My Grand Cherokee with the proper HEMI V8 and the ZF 8-Speed is damn quick, and the rear gears are 3.45.
This guy understands, the newer transmissions offer lower gear ratios. The 3 or 4 speed transmissions need a higher numerically rear end to help the sissy first gear ratios
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:34 PM
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Actually, final drive ratios aren't changing that much regardless of transmission.
I think that's my point even though I could have articulated it better.

Everything else the same, a vehicle with an 6, 8, 10 speed transmission will perform better than one with a 4-speed trans (using the same rear end ratio)

Hell my Jeep with the 8-speed pulls better than my lighter and more powerful Ram with the old Mercedes 5/6 speed. And I would bet anything the Ram had a lower ratio than my Jeep (3.45).
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:12 PM
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I had a 2008 Tundra with the 5.7L V8. I liked the truck just fine and it was reliable. And it did tow the X55 okay (which is 7,000lb+ with trailer). Within spec. But I traded it in for a 2016 F250 Diesel. Love it. We also have a travel trailer that goes about 9,000lbs loaded.

The biggest thing I like is having 4WD. Just this weekend on the ramp, it was a bit mossy. A few trucks were sliding and spinning. I put it in 4L and pulled the big boat up the ramp without a slip. So, my point, whatever you look at, I'd make sure its 4WD.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:26 AM
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With transmissions having 8 and (an outrageous) 10 speeds now, the rear gears are playing a much smaller role in your drive ability both towing and non towing.

In a vehicle with a 4-speed, they were a huge factor. Now, for the average guy hauling his boat, it really doesn't matter.

My Grand Cherokee with the proper HEMI V8 and the ZF 8-Speed is damn quick, and the rear gears are 3.45.
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This guy understands, the newer transmissions offer lower gear ratios. The 3 or 4 speed transmissions need a higher numerically rear end to help the sissy first gear ratios
In a way the new trannys are actually offering lower gear ratios in the lower gears, but at the end of the day a 3.42 is a 3.42 whether its a 6 speed or 8 speed.

My father has the 8 speed Silverado with the 6.2L and I have the 6 speed Silverado with the 6.2L. We both average the exactly same gas mileage and we both have the same lift and tire combo. I find with his truck it does a little better at the lower speeds than mine but once were on the highway its essentially tows the same.

This is just my thoughts, but if you got the Silverado with a 3.08 rear end, you will be hunting for gears while at highway speeds, so while the news trannys are nice, you still need the rear ends that have the lower gears to help sustain those speeds.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:37 AM
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I had a Sierra 5.3 that was tuned it also had the 3.08 (rated to tow 6800). I sold it when I realized that our v6 touareg (Rated to tow 7700) would pull our 230VRS better. I have since sold that and just picked up a F150 with the 6.2 and it has the 3.55 gears (rated to tow 9600). I was nervous until I drove it, but it seems to be a pretty good tow vehicle with the added power.

All three vehicles are rated to tow the weight, but there was a big difference with the more capable vehicles.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:46 AM
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I had a Sierra 5.3 that was tuned it also had the 3.08 (rated to tow 6800). I sold it when I realized that our v6 touareg (Rated to tow 7700) would pull our 230VRS better. I have since sold that and just picked up a F150 with the 6.2 and it has the 3.55 gears (rated to tow 9600). I was nervous until I drove it, but it seems to be a pretty good tow vehicle with the added power.

All three vehicles are rated to tow the weight, but there was a big difference with the more capable vehicles.
That ford with the 6.2L should have ZERO issues towing your boat and should be night and day difference than the touareg.
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