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Old 07-07-2018, 09:04 AM
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On MPG alone between gas and diesel, youíll never save enough on fuel to make up the difference in the life of the truck. Spreadsheet it, I dare you.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:45 PM
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^Youre 100% correct, except in rare circumstances, like hotshot trucking or something.
But try to sell your gasser for as much as the diesel, 5,10,15 years down the road. You won't. I dare you! Won't even be close for an apples to apples truck. Somehow, gasp, it'll be worth about as much more as the diesel upcharge when new....
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:48 PM
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Thatís why I buy used
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:52 PM
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^Youre 100% correct, except in rare circumstances, like hotshot trucking or something.
But try to sell your gasser for as much as the diesel, 5,10,15 years down the road. You won't. I dare you! Won't even be close for an apples to apples truck. Somehow, gasp, it'll be worth about as much more as the diesel upcharge when new....
This!!! When shopping for my 6.7, the 6.2 counterparts were ~10k cheaper than the diesels.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:54 PM
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On MPG alone between gas and diesel, youíll never save enough on fuel to make up the difference in the life of the truck. Spreadsheet it, I dare you.
Also, this isnít true. 11mpg in the gas vs 15-17mpg in the diesel (real world, Iíve done a lot of driving in the new 17+s.) is a substantial difference.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:57 PM
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I suppose it depends on how many miles you plan to drive it, the more miles, the more savings and the more it tips the equation to diesel. Of course if you need the pulling power of diesel this is a mute point.
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Old 07-08-2018, 09:37 PM
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Once you have been seduced by the power a diesel offers, I don't know how you could ever own a gas truck again. They really shine at high altitudes, and for highway use such as in vacation travel.
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Old 07-09-2018, 12:02 PM
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I like my 2 super duty 6.2's. I have a 2012 with 175,000 miles that is now a shop truck. I also have a 2016 with 125,000 miles. Both trucks have been trouble free besides something small like alternator and water pump. Both trucks have also had a plow on since new so that would explain the alternator to me, and a water pump after 100,000 miles didn't seem bad to me.

I also have had 2 super duty V-10's both with plows since new. One was a 2007 that i sold with 190,000 trouble free miles.

The other one was a 2009 that had 275,000 when i sold it, i know the owner and it now has over 300,000 miles and still runs good. This 2009 had the transmission replaced at 200,000. It was acting funny on the way to Canada for a fishing week, the shop i stopped at wasn't sure if it was a small or major issue, but they had a new tranny right down the road they could put in by 8:00 the next morning for $2,000. No brainer to me and just replaced it.

Are the diesels nice? Sure they are. Do they deserve the higher price? That one I'm not sure on, I do like the gas Super Dutys I've owned for the past 12 years and love towing with them. I don't tow too many trailers over 6,000 lbs. My truck pulls the boat great and our 40hp tractor and skid steer around no problem.

The only time i wished for a diesel was when i pulled a 13,000lb trailer with a forklift on it. I could tell i was well over the 10,000lb limit when accelerating, but made it slow and steady, between the truck brakes and trailer brakes the braking was good. I advise against exceeding towing limits, but the super duty will handle it.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:51 PM
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I regularly tow a 14k dump trailer usually weighing in around 8-10 depending on skid steer or mini ex. Itís comfortable towing it. Now I had an old 7.3 ex cab long bed that seemed like it would do 0 to 60 in 10 seconds even towing a skid steer. But I never find myself needing that capability


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Old 07-10-2018, 12:20 AM
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On MPG alone between gas and diesel, youíll never save enough on fuel to make up the difference in the life of the truck. Spreadsheet it, I dare you.
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I suppose it depends on how many miles you plan to drive it, the more miles, the more savings and the more it tips the equation to diesel. Of course if you need the pulling power of diesel this is a mute point.
I have done a spreadsheet on it to justify getting a diesel for my work truck and your second post is correct it depends on how many miles you plan to drive it. In my epxerience the diesel up charge pays for itself after 95-100k miles, even earlier if you are doing a fair amount of heavy towing. I put on about 35k miles per year so after 3 years the savings in fuel covers the extra cost, plus I do some towing and as others have mentioned once you drive a diesel it's hard to go back.
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