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Old 08-24-2011, 01:30 PM
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How does the pure vert fill up additional ballast bags that are on top of the floor?
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:48 PM
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How does one person drive the boat and let out some ballast to change the wake/wave? Where are the valves located?

How do you concentrate most of the weight in the rear corners for surfing?
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:53 PM
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How does one person drive the boat and let out some ballast to change the wake/wave? Where are the valves located?

How do you concentrate most of the weight in the rear corners for surfing?
Getting the transom above the waterline drains the tanks or getting up on plane or getting the nose in the air, etc.. The gates are in the back. Did you not see this post?

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...5&postcount=31

i.e. Let's say you're pulling a wakeboarder, both tanks are full. Next person up wants to surf on the port side. You simply open the gate to the starboard tank, by the time the rider can let go of the rope, you have a perfect surf wave (smaller platform on MB). The starboard tank is empty in 60 seconds and you can close the gate......
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:01 PM
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Doug,

How does the pure vert fill up additional ballast bags that are on top of the floor?
Jason,
They don't, the system is designed to have the ballast below the deck which are built into the hull. Depending on the hull design 3,000 plus ponds can be added. If you had a boat with the Pure Vert system in it and wanted to add more ballast than the existing ballast capacity you could fill sacks like you probably do currently. The neat part about the Pure Vert system is the ease and speed you can add and remove water as well as making quick adjustments to the wake on a per rider basis. The system is simple, easy to operate and for the most part maintenance free. As I mentioned in another post the big issue for the manufacturers is designing and build new molds to accommodate the system. In the long run it pays off in lack of warranty issues as well as lots of happy customers.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:31 PM
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Getting the transom above the waterline drains the tanks or getting up on plane or getting the nose in the air, etc.. The gates are in the back. Did you not see this post?

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...5&postcount=31

i.e. Let's say you're pulling a wakeboarder, both tanks are full. Next person up wants to surf on the port side. You simply open the gate to the starboard tank, by the time the rider can let go of the rope, you have a perfect surf wave (smaller platform on MB). The starboard tank is empty in 60 seconds and you can close the gate......
So if it's just me and my wife out and I want less ballast she has to leave the helm, while underway, to go open a gate and let it out?

If I want to go from wakeboarding to surfing she has to leave the helm, while underway, to open a gate?

I would suggest some sort of electrice valve that is contolled at the helm for version 2.0.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:49 PM
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How system works



Your boat comes equipped with Drain Master, Electric Ballast Valves. We are confident that this product will be a true benefit to your future boating experience.

Your Drain Master is extremely easy to use and requires little maintenance.

Before you use your wake system, make sure you have read and understand how the wake system works.

When you are ready to fill your ballast tanks, simply push the switch u toward the word “open” and hold it for no more than 2 seconds. The valve opens and the ballast tanks will fill completely in about 50 to 60 seconds. The Drain Master will open in 1-2 seconds, which means you don’t have to hold the switch in the open position for more than 2 seconds. Holding the switch longer will pop the 5 amp fuse!

To close your valve, simply push the rocker switch to the “close” position. Again, the valve will close in 1-2 seconds.

The switch is a momentary center return. (Which means, when you release the switch, it will automatically return to off).

Never hold the switch in the open or closed position for more than 3 seconds.

When you are ready to empty your ballast tanks, push the switch down toward the word “Close” and hold for no more than 2 seconds. Open and Close work exactly the same so use the same procedure to fill and dump. The only exception is when dumping the ballast water, the boat has to be moving forward fast enough to expose the ballast drain inlet/outlets.

IMPORTANT: Should you ever lose power to your boat, you can open or close the valve manually. To do this, use the supplied 1/8” Allen Wrench secured on the back of the valve. On either side of the Drain Master, you will see the words “Manual Override” on the upper center area. The words Open and Close with directional arrows provide directions in which you will turn the hex head in the middle of this wording. Turn in the direction you need. There will be resistance as you are overriding a safety clutch, Turn until the shaft stops. The gate will fully open or close with about a turn and a half with the Allen Wrench. When convenient, check and correct electrical problem. NOTE: The manual override was designed for use in emergency situations only.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:12 PM
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So if it's just me and my wife out and I want less ballast she has to leave the helm, while underway, to go open a gate and let it out?

If I want to go from wakeboarding to surfing she has to leave the helm, while underway, to open a gate?

I would suggest some sort of electrice valve that is contolled at the helm for version 2.0.
Already is push button. Stop hating, go try for yourself, then report back.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:17 PM
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Already is push button. Stop hating, go try for yourself, then report back.
It's more like legit questions about a new system with my included issues as I see them. Don't take offense when none is intended.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:00 AM
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Hopefully this will clear up any confusion on how the Pure Vert system works.

Pure Vert/Drain Master Marine Ballast Valve Operating
Instructions/Warranty
Wake Ballast Systems 8/9/2011
Congratulations on the purchase of your new sports boat. Your boat comes equipped with Drain Master Marine, Electric Ballast Valves. We are confident that our product will be a true benefit to your future boating experience.
 Your Drain Master Marine valve is extremely easy to use and requires little maintenance.
 Before you use your wake system, make sure you have read and understand how the wake system works.
 NOTE:
If your boat has an LCD display and the Ballast system is controlled by it, you will need to refer to the manufacturers Ballast Operating Instructions for directions.
Center OFF Momentary Switch (light “Off”)
Port, Starboard and Forward Ballast Switch (if equipped)  When you are ready to fill your ballast tanks, simply push the switch up toward the word “open” and hold it for no more than 2 seconds. The ballast valve opens, the light in the switch comes on and the ballast tanks will fill completely in approximately 1 minute depending on ballast capacity. Your boat must not be moving when filling the tanks.  The ballast valve will open in 1-2 seconds, which means you don’t have to hold the switch in the open position for more than 2 seconds. Holding the switch longer will pop the 5 amp fuse! The Light in the switch will be on as long as the Ballast valve is Open!

Center OFF Momentary Switch
L.E.D. Light “ON”
 When the ballasts are full, simply close your valve, by pushing the rocker switch to the “close” position. Again, the valve will close in 1-2 seconds. The Light in the switch will go Off!
 Never hold the switch in the open or closed position for more than 3 seconds.
 When you are ready to empty or adjust your ballast tanks, push the switch up toward the word “Open” and hold for no more than 2 seconds. Open and Close work exactly the same so use the same procedure to fill and dump. The only exception is when dumping the ballast water, the boat has to be moving forward fast enough to expose the ballast drain inlet/outlets.
 IMPORTANT: Should you ever lose power to your boat, you can open or close the valve manually. To do this, use the supplied 1/8” Allen Wrench secured on the back of the valve. On either side of the Drain Master Marine Ballast Valve, you will see the words Manual Override on the upper center area. The words Open and Close with directional arrows provide directions in which you will turn the hex head in the middle of this wording. Turn in the direction you need. There will be resistance as you are overriding a safety clutch. Turn until the shaft stops. The gate will fully open or close with about a turn and a half with the Allen Wrench. When convenient, check and correct electrical problem. * see attached picture. NOTE: The manual override was designed for use in emergency situations only (i.e., loss of power, problem with valve) – It is not meant to replace the switch.
 NOTE: If your valve becomes sluggish, you may need to remove the valve and remove debris from the gate area. Change and lubricate the seals, (only the seals purchased from Drain Master Marine will work with this valve, Part #DM30-SB). Lubricate the seals with Dow Corning 111 only.
Complete Valve Assembly
NOTE:
One valve is required for each Ballast tank.
To remove the ballast valve:
Disconnect the electrical plug. Loosen rubber couplings with the band clamps furthest from the ballast valve assembly. Remove the 4 7/16 SS nuts and bolts from the flanges holding the ballast valve in place. Slip the rubber couplings back on the pipes from the transom and to the ballast tank about 1” each. The ballast valve should be easy to remove.
To replace the ballast valve:
Grease the ballast valve gate on both sides with Dow Corning 111 grease or equivalent. Non petroleum base. Makes sure the gate on the ballast valve is closed! Place the 2 seals on the flanges, NOT IN THE BALLAST VALVE!. Pull the flanges back into place and install the 4 SS bolts and nuts, FINGER TIGHT! Now tighten NO MORE than 1.5 full turns with a 7/16” wrench Reconnect the electrical plug and test.

IMPORTANT: Should you ever lose power to your boat, you can open or close the valve manually. To do this, use the supplied 1/8” Allen Wrench secured on the back of the valve. On either side of the Drain Master Marine Ballast Valve, you will see the words Manual Override on the upper center area. The words Open and Close with directional arrows provide directions in which you will turn the hex head in the middle of this wording. Turn in the direction you need. There will be resistance as you are overriding a safety clutch. Turn until the shaft stops. The gate will fully open or close with about a turn and a half with the Allen Wrench. When convenient, check and correct electrical problem. * see attached picture. NOTE: The manual override was designed for use in emergency situations only (i.e., loss of power, problem with valve) – It is not meant to replace the switch.
400 Park Center Dr. Ste. # 6 Hollister CA 95023 Phone 877 -787- 8833
www.drainmastermarine.com
DM72-4
Drain Master Marine Warranty
What Is Covered and For How Long
We are confident that our product will perform well and therefore warrant to you, as the original purchaser, for a period of 1 year from the date of original purchase, that your new product will be free of mechanical and electrical defects in material and workmanship.
What Drain Master Marine Will Do & How to Get Service
If your boat is still under manufacturer warranty, please refer warranty issues to your manufacturer. If the boat is outside of the manufacturer warranty and your product is covered during the Drain Master Marine period, we will replace your new product (you pay the shipping costs), which will be your exclusive remedy under this warranty. Drain Master Marine may require the valve be returned (at customers expense) before determining warranty status. Drain Master Marine shall not be liable for any special, incidental, indirect or consequential damages whatsoever (including, without limitation, labor or installation charges, damages for loss of business profits, business interruption or any other pecuniary loss) arising out of the use of or inability to use the product. If your valve is eligible for return to Drain Master, please call us toll free for a return authorization number and shipping instructions.
Send To: Drain Master LLC. Marine Customer Care Dept. 400 Park Center Dr. Ste 6, Hollister, CA 95023
Please be aware that use of the product on improper voltage or current, use contrary to operating instructions, or disassembly, repair, or alterations by any person other than a reputable boat service repair company may render your product warranty void.
How Your State’s Law May Apply
Some states do not allow limitations on how long an implied warranty lasts or the exclusion or limitation of incidental or consequential damages, so the above limitation may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights, and you may also have other rights, which vary from state to state or province to province.
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