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Old 07-22-2018, 03:05 PM
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I feel like I'm watching the History of the Automobile on the History Channel.

Two old guys standing in front of the general store.

old guy 1: what's that?
old guy 2: it's one of those newfangled auto watcha call it.
old guy 1: I don't like it!
old guy 2: yeah, gonna keep my trusty old mule! Don't need that gasoline stuff. Just a bale of hay to keep it going.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:11 PM
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Yeah but the old guys and the young Whipper snappers like Beer and women, LOL
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:57 PM
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Yep, my experience is that if it has a computer box on it, and you keep the vehicle, boat, motorcycle, or whatever, longer than a couple of years, the "brains" will fail leaving you stranded wherever you are. Only recourse is to carry and extra "brain box" with you in the vehicle, and know where it is, and how to change it. Not easy at all like the older engines that just usually had bad points you could change in the field. The EFI and other systems are more efficient but are not user repair friendly. I never used, or needed AAA until I had my first truck with a box.
Couple years and the computer fails???? Lol
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:10 PM
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I feel like I'm watching the History of the Automobile on the History Channel.

Two old guys standing in front of the general store..
Haha exactly...

I specifically hunted for an efi boat before we bought our 94.
Will happily take any downsides over dealing with carbs.
And what's this talk about "the computer failing after a couple years"? What? Hah
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:32 PM
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Couple years and the computer fails???? Lol
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Haha exactly...

I specifically hunted for an efi boat before we bought our 94.
Will happily take any downsides over dealing with carbs.
And what's this talk about "the computer failing after a couple years"? What? Hah
Think about how many vehicles and boats and for that matter how many CNC tools are out in the work force without failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pI34YSye68
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:39 PM
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Ok, I fixed it added a word. Good now?
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:41 PM
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I think the more practical trade-off with older boats is the smaller size and direct drive only configuration. Works for some, just depends on the lake and intended use.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:18 AM
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No O2 sensors on boats. And I'm pretty sure the last time I had a bad 02 sensor was, well, I don't remember. 1993?
Ha you are in for a treat. They now have o2 sensors!
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Old 07-23-2018, 09:45 AM
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Right on Roadster02, thats what i'm talking about.
What is so terrible with owning something Simple.
KISS keep it Simple Silly
Yes I'am a old school, but a simple old schooler
Hippy ,ok I except that
isn't KISS - keep it simple stupid?
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:41 PM
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Think about how many vehicles and boats and for that matter how many CNC tools are out in the work force without failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pI34YSye68

There are, my concern though is that as the boats have gotten larger and more expensive they have also gotten more specialized and less generic.

In the 90's your TBI or DI boat used a MEFI ignition module that for better or worse was atleast GM's product offering for offroad and Marine EFI applications used by the "big boys" of marine engines such as Mercruiser, and a GM Delphi product meaning there is still a fairly robust aftermarket offering.

Ford engines mostly petered out in our industry with the switch to EFI with the exception of PCM that offered the EFI Ford "GT-40" boss engines which a few years back was essentially obsolete with recently someone has provided a work around but its not something your typical wally will be able to do themselves.

Now fast forwards to today, nearly all the boats we're discussing use an ECM from E-controls technologies, there is little to no aftermarket support on these, same thing for the screens, meaning that in 15 years you are at the whim of if your local Mastercraft service will really be able to sort things out, or maybe people will be converting these boats to standard gauges and having the same talk as we are now with the Medallion MDC conversions - only you'd have to also replace the computer/management because the screen does that too!
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