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Old 05-14-2018, 09:25 PM
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New bilge pump needed, why is it called non-automatic if it has a switch?

Engine Guru, but marine-specific crap, not so much, so I have a question:

1992 Prostar, bilge pump has an auto switch, floater, works as designed, but the pump has a crack in the upper, so I need a new pump, it was just old, dry-rotted.

I have a Rule 800 in here currently, the Google ad says "Non automatic", but it shows a floater switch.

***? Is this just a Google F up, or do I really need the $200 pump vs a $30.00 pump?

I appreciate the advice. The wiring I understand, but the ads do not show a diagram.

Input apprecated. Here is the ad, by the way, looks like what I have currently:

https://www.hodgesmarine.com/Rule-80...jqeniramsegdoh
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:02 PM
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the pump itself is manual...
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:10 PM
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I think in my 88 the float itself was separate. You could flip the switch on the dash to engage the pump manually or the other way to have it turn on when the float lifted.
If your float is fine you'll have a spare if you buy that one.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:13 PM
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If its got an external float, id replace the whole pump and old float with a new 3-wire automatic that has the float integrated.

No, you dont need a $200 pump.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:49 AM
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Thank you very much guys, much appreciated.
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:32 AM
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FWIW, an 'automatic' pump turns itself on every couple of minutes. If it senses no resistance on the impeller/motor, it shuts off after 2-3 seconds. If it does sense resistance due to water in the bilge, it keeps running until the resistance goes away (bilge is dry).
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:51 PM
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FWIW, an 'automatic' pump turns itself on every couple of minutes. If it senses no resistance on the impeller/motor, it shuts off after 2-3 seconds. If it does sense resistance due to water in the bilge, it keeps running until the resistance goes away (bilge is dry).
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I had considered an "automatic" bilge pump last summer, but then I figured that when the boat was sitting on the trailer during the week I'd have to add a switch to cut the power to the pump. Whether I added an ignition switch with an ACC position or used the ACC switch on the dash, I'd have to remember to cut it on and off. The float has worked fine since 1995.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/rule-...mp--P000491928
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There are pumps that do cycle on and then off if there is no water, but in a basic sense, there have been 3-wire automatic pumps for decades. The have an internal float or sensor and only come on automatically when there is water.

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Old 05-15-2018, 03:42 PM
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The rule 800, which is exactly what is in there now is only $35.00, and the floater switch is $30.00.

Good to know about what they mean by "automatic".

Thanks for the info guys, appreciate the help.
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The one you linked to in your original post has the 800 pump AND a new float switch for $41.52.
That's cheaper than Walmart.
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