Go Back   TeamTalk > Maintenance Tips, How-tos and Refurbishing Topics > General / Other

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-02-2006, 09:17 AM
Bruce Carr Bruce Carr is offline
TT Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Boat: 1983 SS, 1991 PS190
Location: Ft Worth, Tx
Posts: 189
Discount Inboard Marine (DIM) has an aftermarket rudder assembly. It does not look the same as the MC original but I am sure it will work. Before you replace the rudder, I would take it apart, clean it up, lube it up well and reinstall along with a new steering cable and see if that makes a big improvement.
Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2006, 09:01 AM
mhobbs01's Avatar
mhobbs01 mhobbs01 is offline
TT Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2006
Boat: 2002 X-30 & 1984 S&S
Location: Fresno
Posts: 28
Thanks for the sound advice. It'll save me from spending the $300 (for now anyway).
Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2006, 08:44 AM
mhobbs01's Avatar
mhobbs01 mhobbs01 is offline
TT Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2006
Boat: 2002 X-30 & 1984 S&S
Location: Fresno
Posts: 28
I replaced the helm and steering cable...big difference. A trip to the lake will tell all.
Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2010, 03:21 PM
JMann's Avatar
JMann JMann is offline
MC Fanatic
Join Date: Nov 2008
Boat: 1991 Prostar 190, Indmar 351
Location: West coat, San Francisco bay area
Posts: 746
Send a message via Yahoo to JMann
Originally Posted by Bruce Carr View Post
I have an '83 S&S. It has been my experience that if the steering is tight/stiff in both directions all the time or under way at idling speed, the cable is probably worn/crudded up with rust. I have had minimal success trying to re-lubricate the cable as the older MC's did not have a grease zerk on the cable (my '91 has a grease zerk in the cable but not the '83). In the 25 odd years I have had the S&S, I have replaced the cable twice, last night being the second time around. You can get a new cable at DIM or you might be able to pick one up on Ebay. The length of the cable on my '83 is 15 feet.

If the steering gets stiff/hangs up under load (turning/higher speed maneuvering) but is reasonably easy to turn at lower loads, the rudder shaft and rudder log are probably worn out. I am speaking from experience here. Unfortuneately, there are no replaceable bearings in the rudder assembly and the entire rudder and log must be replaced. I would recommend removing the rudder from the boat and examining the rudder shaft. Wear will be apparant on the shaft in the form of groves worn in the shaft where the shaft contacts the bearing surfaces in the log. Keep in mind, if the shaft exhibits wear, you have about the same amount of wear in the log too. With the rudder shaft installed in the log, any more than 1/8" to 3/16" slop from side to side at the bottom of the rudder is too much in my opinion.
My 1991 Prostar has stiff steering to the left. I can turn the wheel about 1/2 way to the left then it gets hard to turn. If I let off the thottle I can turn it the rest of the way then give it gas again. On the trailer the steering feels fine.
I didn't know there was a zerk fitting on the cabble. Do I have to pull the gas tank to get to this zerk fitting in the cable? Where is the fitting located?

Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2010, 08:50 PM
markismm's Avatar
markismm markismm is offline
TT Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2008
Boat: 1984 Stars and Stripes
Location: Georgia
Posts: 238
I would do a couple of things. First I would remove the rudder and install new seals and re-grease. Second I would remove the steering cable and spray penetrating lubricant into both ends of the cable, especially the rudder end. Finally I would put new grease in the helm and on both ends of the cable. This should fix the problem. You absolutely should not have the problem of using a lot of force to turn the wheel while under load or not. It should be smooth and fairly easy to turn. I have an 84 S&S and the steering got stiff. I followed the above steps and now the steering is silky smooth no matter what speed and easy to turn too.
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:26 PM.