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Old 07-06-2018, 04:23 PM
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Which all around boat for ~$65-70k

Hello all,

I am looking for a boat that is good for a starting family. I grew up on a 93' stars and stripes PS190, now with a baby on the way I want to continue that with my family. I am a novice, at best, wake-boarder but I really enjoy it. I also want to get a nice wave for surfing. Tubing and knee-boarding will probably also be happening but for now my main concern is wake-boarding and wake-surfing. I thought an X25 was probably what I was looking for but really it seems like they need tons of ballast to get a decent surf wake. Or is buy, installing, filling, and emptying ballast not a huge deal?

What year/model do you think would be best for a budget around $70k?

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Old 07-06-2018, 04:31 PM
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Might be able to grab a 2013 X30 with gen 2 for 75 which would be a great choice.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:11 PM
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I don't think you could go wrong with a 2013 X25 or X30. The X25 has a steeper wake and the X30 is more mellow.

Wake boarding - The X30 is easier to learn on with a predictive ramping wake, but the X25 it's easier to go huge with a stepper ramping wake. Both put out a nice wake...just different.

Surfing - Both put out a good surf wake. The X25's steep wake tends to have more push so if you're a big dude the X25 might have an edge. You're gonna be putting more ballast than stock if you get serious in either boat. Plugging in bags above the rear hard tanks is easy and not very expensive.

Tubing - Yep, they'll both do it.

Knee boarding - Not into this so I'm not too sure what a knee boarder is looking for but I would suspect the wake boarding comments hold true for this as well.

If you can't afford 2013 models I'd skip 2012 and go right to a 2010-11 to avoid the screen issues.

You could drop to a smaller boat if you're crew is small. Test drive a few and get pulled on your board behind it. That's going to tell you more than anything we say of what's the right boat for you.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:24 PM
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I don't think you could go wrong with a 2013 X25 or X30. The X25 has a steeper wake and the X30 is more mellow.

Wake boarding - The X30 is easier to learn on with a predictive ramping wake, but the X25 it's easier to go huge with a stepper ramping wake. Both put out a nice wake...just different.

Surfing - Both put out a good surf wake. The X25's steep wake tends to have more push so if you're a big dude the X25 might have an edge. You're gonna be putting more ballast than stock if you get serious in either boat. Plugging in bags above the rear hard tanks is easy and not very expensive.

Tubing - Yep, they'll both do it.

Knee boarding - Not into this so I'm not too sure what a knee boarder is looking for but I would suspect the wake boarding comments hold true for this as well.

If you can't afford 2013 models I'd skip 2012 and go right to a 2010-11 to avoid the screen issues.

You could drop to a smaller boat if you're crew is small. Test drive a few and get pulled on your board behind it. That's going to tell you more than anything we say of what's the right boat for you.



Good points above. X30 is much mellower and wider than the 25, and the 30 stays cleaner at lower speeds. The 25 is lippier, with a shorter transition, so the wakeboard wakes are pretty much polar opposites. The X25 surf wake is a little harder to setup but can be great. The 30 however, pretty much stomps it out in every aspect, no way would I say the 25 has more push than the 30.

The steep setting when weighted right, is one of the biggest Iíve seen in the 30. All about the setup though. Rough water ride is much better in the 25. I put 225 hours on our X25 in a little over 14 months, and just crossed the 120 hour mark in the 30, and pretty much have the 30 dialed by now. Still prefer the X25 wakeboard wake though. Always consistently huge with less weight needed than the 30.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:51 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Any opinions on a 13' xstar for surfing? I am not sure we need the size of the x25/x30 but was thinking they might be a better all-around boat?
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:42 PM
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13 star without gen 2 won’t surf at all
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:53 AM
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13 star without gen 2 wonít surf at all
It will surf, add a suck gate and some weight and its decent. It may not compare to some of the other boats for surfing but you can't say it won't surf at all
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:05 PM
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It will surf, add a suck gate and some weight and its decent. It may not compare to some of the other boats for surfing but you can't say it won't surf at all
Sorry should have clarified. It will surf sorta but requires quite a bit of work. Out of the box( as most people want) it struggles. I loved my 15 star with gen 2 and 800lbs lead. I when I demoed a 13 in 2013 it was not good of surfing from the factory since gen 2 was not available at the time
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Thatís where Iíd be. x25 or new style x30. Or if you want to save a few bucks, an x45 if you have the space or a x15 are primo choices as well.
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:21 AM
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I was in your same shoes earlier this year. I was pretty set on an X30 with Gen2 and completely disregarded the X10 ... until I rode behind it. We purchased a 2014 X10 with ultra low hours and I was worried about the roominess (the wake and wave were no longer worries once I rode it). Weíve had 13 ppl out and still have a great time with space for everyone to be comfy. The X10 surf wave is crazy good as well. Wakemakers has an incredible upgrade for the PnP bags thatíll add 1600 lbs to the lockers!

With that being said, Iíd go with a Gen2 X30 if youíre looking for more room, or give the X10 a shot. You can pick one up with Gen2 (2014 or so) if your range if you look


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