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Old 11-24-2015, 10:05 PM
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Great info. I guess I could update my boat ownership in the profile. I have a 09 X-star. Absolutely takes a ton of weight to surf, and it is very short and finicky. However the wakeboard wake is 5 star. I dont want to give up a quality boarding wake. I have not.iced the 23 is almost 700 or 800 pounds heavier than the 30. Does it drive like a lunker ala the 55? Visually I like the picklefork....but that's not a deal breaker.
thanks for all the help

Just saw this. I've drove all 3, star and 30 were piss slammed, x23 was full stock ballast

X star and x30 out drive the x23 2:1 in my opinion.

If I had to pick between x23 or 30 it would be a x30.

X23 was an awesome boat but I was kinda disappointed on how it drove. Everyone says the stars drive like a tank but I honestly think my 05 star drove better than the x23 at surf speeds. I just thought the 23 didn't turn as tight I guess.


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Old 11-25-2015, 09:01 AM
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Both of these are great boats. The great thing about the X23 is the fact that you don't need to add any ballast to have an incredible surf wave. The X23 to me drives better than my X45 did but it is a heavy boat with more of a V hull than the X30. It will ride way better in Chop but the X30 will probably turn better that the X23 due to hull shape.

Doc seems to have really found a great wake and from the pics I have seen he is right. But that takes time and sometimes space in the boat. For the X23 you don't need any ballast at all. You pick the side you want to ride and the wave style and your good. The ballast fills in about 6-7 minutes.

I love my X23. Its a great boat and ride amazing. I get so many compliments on the boat and everyone that I taught to surf this summer was doing so by the second try due to the amount of push the X23 has.

The wakeboard wake is great. It may not have the pure size of the G but I get just as much Height and distance as I do behind my friends G. The wave has so much pop and great shape/size.

I cant say enough good things about the X23. However the X30 is a great boat as well. The X30 that is 33K less must have a smaller engine and less options because I know when I was shopping they were alillte bit closer than that.
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Old 11-25-2015, 09:10 AM
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Doc seems to have really found a great wake and from the pics I have seen he is right. But that takes time and sometimes space in the boat. For the X23 you don't need any ballast at all. You pick the side you want to ride and the wave style and your good. The ballast fills in about 6-7 minutes.
1100s in the rear lockers (which actually fill about 850-900 according to 440)

400 lbs of lead in the bow.

Done.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:20 PM
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There is another option..... Spend 5k on Go Surf Assist and some addtl ballast and keep enjoying your Star. There is a recent thread on here about this. I think Aric started it with some pics.

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Old 12-02-2015, 12:38 PM
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I have spent significant time between both boats this summer, 150 hours on my X-30 and 75 hours on my buddy's X-23 (I was not there for all of those,but a lot of them).

There are pro's and cons to each boat, so you have to decide what is important to you.

if surfing is important:
The X-30 out of the box is a really nice wave, but with some added ballast and some tuning it turns into a top notch performer. Likewise, the X-23 is top notch out of the box and with a little tuning it turns into an absolute MONSTER.

It takes about #4,500 of ballast in my X-30 to get the similar wave to my buddy's X-23 with 200 extra pounds of lead in the back. At that point, you don't have much storage left in the X-30...and if you remove the rear PNP ballast in the X-23 and replace with lead, you get a lot of storage back (and I like the fact you can access it from the rear).

Wakeboard wakes are completely different spectrum's. X-30 good for slower speeds, and is more mellow... in my opinion a little too mellow. The X-23 has a super nice wakeboard wake, but is washy at low speeds and a little more finicky.

What I don't like about the X-23 is the gas consumption, terrible top speed and overall it just weighs more and it feels like it, driving, towing, etc. The higher RPM's at surf speed make me nervous for engine longevity (I should mention both of our boats have the 6.2). The storage in the X-23 is not all that great, but like stated earlier, neither is the 30 if you sack it out.

Bottom line is that the X-30 is a more well rounded, user friendly boat. Super reliable, setup doesn't change, its always great. The X-23 is a little more hardcore, you sacrifice some stuff in order to get the opportunity to make a better wake.
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